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jeffhlewis

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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2012, 02:47:00 AM »
Definitely CRT for anything 4:3 - I've got a 55" LED LCDTV and although the picture from my Neo Geo and other systems look ok through S-Video, there is still noticable scaling and smoothing going on. Just kind of ruins the experience. My Sony HD-CRT gives me just about a perfect picture, and it only cost me $35 on Craigslist.

I'm also all for using the TV's speakers vs. using my surround sound. Surround for me just kind of ruins the experience. I grew up playing my Sega on a 20" Panasonic set with RF-inputs and one mono speaker on the side, so I try to stick to that as much as possible :)

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« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2012, 03:01:41 AM »
I do notice the lack of scanlines, but that doesn't bother me nearly as much as the delay that I get on my lcd. It's a split second I suppose, but noticeable in action games.
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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2012, 04:44:39 AM »
I have my XRGB and 55" TV.
It works out great to save space.


When I have more room, I saved the 29" CRT, since it looks better.

I may not bother soon though.  The XRGB is doing a bitchin job of looking nice.
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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2012, 06:23:36 AM »
I do notice the lack of scanlines, but that doesn't bother me nearly as much as the delay that I get on my lcd. It's a split second I suppose, but noticeable in action games.

Yeah, scan lines are one thing, but the real killers are delay and the way that many TVs f*ckup the special affects in games that rely on flicker. The most obvious one is shadows in KOF. If the TV has a half-assed upscaler usually instead of both players having a half-tone shadow, one will have no shadow and one with be solid black. This same problem causes sprites that are flickering %50, such as your ship in a shooter after you come back from being shot down, to be rendered fully opaque or totally invisible until the flickering stops. That shit is totally unforgivable. I'd rather play in a 13" b/w CRT with a broken VCR built into it (for the RF modulator, you see) that deal with than bullshit.

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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2012, 08:59:04 AM »
there is no argument that CRT tv's are the best for retro consoles if i had more room i would find a nice 32inch crt  i got limited space just fit my 32 inch lcd and my 21 inch crt and my pc monitor in my room with all the stuff that goes with it lol.

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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2012, 09:20:05 AM »
When I was young and broke and had to spend half my paycheck to buy a single PC Engine game I used to run everything through my Commodore monitor. Everything.   

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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2012, 09:30:51 AM »
When I was young and broke and had to spend half my paycheck to buy a single PC Engine game I used to run everything through my Commodore monitor. Everything.   

Me too!  Great picture and built like a tank.

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« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2012, 11:20:35 AM »
I use a sweet 32" Sony Triton crt for my set up and it works great!  I even grabbed a 27" crt JVC for free to use when I was at college.  Sadly now it just sits in my garage now a days.  That thing was HEAVY!!!!

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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2012, 11:24:38 AM »
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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2012, 06:44:38 PM »
I do notice the lack of scanlines, but that doesn't bother me nearly as much as the delay that I get on my lcd. It's a split second I suppose, but noticeable in action games.

With that delay, certain types of games where timing is extremely important become practically unplayable: most 2D fighters, shumps, and pinball are just a few I can name. (by unplayable, I mean it is difficult to perform well at them)

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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2012, 08:41:31 AM »
I found that lag was only an issue with earlier hdtvs and in recent years the main problem is how hdtvs tend to filter 240p console video when it upscales it, so that it looks like fugly gritty, stained glass, with little pixelization.
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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2012, 09:01:50 AM »
I've got my Turbo Duo hooked up to a 36" Toshiba that I bought about ten years ago, JUST before HDTVs started taking off. It looks great. However, I've hooked up my PC Engine to my 50" Panasonic plasma and it looks great as well.
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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2012, 02:09:25 PM »
I found that lag was only an issue with earlier hdtvs and in recent years the main problem is how hdtvs tend to filter 240p console video when it upscales it, so that it looks like fugly gritty, stained glass, with little pixelization.

Well, my TV is only a few years old, but there is definitely a noticeable lag. An easy way to test with a Duo or TGCD is to listen to the audio coming through the headphone jack on the system and see if the audio on the TV is noticeably later. If it is, then the TV is adjusting the timing of the sound to match the lagged video.

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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2012, 12:32:53 AM »
Good tip will give that a try later.
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Re: Standard TV or HDTV?
« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2012, 08:22:30 AM »
just give that a try with a few games couldn't see or here any lag must be pretty luck with the tv never noticed any lag on any other consoles on here either out of interest its a samsung le32 bought it a long time ago and paid alot at the time.
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