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BigusSchmuck

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Network security at work woes
« on: June 13, 2012, 02:10:19 PM »
So I'm faced with a dilemma at work. The head of our HR department wants me to add their temp intern to the payroll system. I'm positive that this is a huge security breach and to top things off my boss is on vacation and the controller wants me to do it anyway. What irritates me is the controller and HR manager are both IT ignorant and don't have a f*cking clue what's going on. So I either wait until the boss okays it or risk his supervisor (the controller) bitching at us even more. A bad situation...

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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2012, 02:41:32 PM »
Aside from being a temp, is there any reason to believe this guy is a threat? Just being added to a payroll system wouldn't worry me too much.
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BigusSchmuck

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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2012, 02:47:07 PM »
Being able to manipulate pay and such does though.

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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2012, 02:48:11 PM »
I'm confused. Will he have some sort of admin rights?

EDIT: I fear I'm not understanding the situation. If you mean "add to payroll" as in give the guy log in information and let him report his hours so he gets paid, then absolutely do it. If you mean give the guy the ability to adjust wages/labor categories/PTO hours/whatever, I'd be taking a much closer look. If the guy was specifically hired for that job, as a temp to hire with a 6-12 month contract I'd probably do it. If the guy is some random employee with a 6 week contract I wouldn't give the guy anything beyond the ability to report his hours.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2012, 03:04:32 PM by Sadler »

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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2012, 04:12:04 PM »
What really I am a graduate in Computer Science and can not even find a descent job, in my field. ](*,) Must be lack o experience. Any suggestions?

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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2012, 05:36:41 PM »
What really I am a graduate in Computer Science and can not even find a descent job, in my field. ](*,) Must be lack o experience. Any suggestions?

That depends, what exactly do you want to do? Computer Science is pretty broad, and there are lots of jobs that it could encompass.

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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2012, 06:16:38 PM »
I'm confused. Will he have some sort of admin rights?

EDIT: I fear I'm not understanding the situation. If you mean "add to payroll" as in give the guy log in information and let him report his hours so he gets paid, then absolutely do it. If you mean give the guy the ability to adjust wages/labor categories/PTO hours/whatever, I'd be taking a much closer look. If the guy was specifically hired for that job, as a temp to hire with a 6-12 month contract I'd probably do it. If the guy is some random employee with a 6 week contract I wouldn't give the guy anything beyond the ability to report his hours.
The gal is a temp hr person, why hr wants the ability to have a temp manipulate wages/labor is beyond me so I'm going to try to hold off until the actual IT manager gets back as I got far too many bigger projects I have to do (the entire company is going on a new software which makes dos look awesome. :P). Its a security risk considering this person is probably not going to be here beyond harvest (1-2 months) and the damn hr manager wants to give her about $2000 dollars of equipment to a TEMP, that equipment can go out to other departments like the grain brokers who actually need it, not to have it just to have it which I think it is the case for accessing the payroll system.
What really I am a graduate in Computer Science and can not even find a descent job, in my field. ](*,) Must be lack o experience. Any suggestions?
What I have been doing for the better part of 10 years is being the neighborhood IT guy doing all sorts of odds and ends, mostly building pcs. Thats how I got the experience necessary for this job, but I also had a network administration degree and a slew of professional references. So if I were you, I would get into doing side IT work by either advertising by word of mouth or put an ad in the newspaper. Just be aware you won't get $50 an hour, but more the less do it for the experience and instead of charging them by the hour, do it by the job. If you are a programmer, good luck I hope you have at least a bachelors degree and a few programming certs to go along with it, those type of jobs (depending on where you live) are pretty hard to get your foot in the door. Finally, if all else fails, go for a helpdesk job, it won't pay much (better than minimum wage), but at least it will look good on a resume.

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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2012, 06:31:04 PM »
I studied a lot of programming and Networking, but that is what I do right now fix computers around the neighborhood and fix networking issues. I do have a Bachelors degree but no certificates. I looked into it but it is so expensive. Talk about frustrating I left a good job paying about 19 an hour to go back to school to earn more, and do something I like. Now I make less drive further and still not in my field. ](*,) Where did I go wrong.  :-k.  Thanks for your advice I really appreciate all the advice you can give.

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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2012, 03:32:42 AM »
With something like that it all depends what kind of business you're in and how compliant to standards you want to be. You'd be surprised by how many large corporations aren't SOX complaint (though many claim to be) for example.

With that said if you're a private business that isn't in the medical field, ownership/management can do whatever they want.
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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2012, 10:09:23 AM »
Depending on your area you may need to go through recruiters to find the good stuff.  Shit sucks but it was the only way for me to get a job where I'm at unless you're ex-military with clearance already. 

It won't pay but doing IT/tech for local non-profits is a good resume builder, plus in some cases if you're REALLY useful they might be able to make a case to bring you on board as an actual employee.  Also volunteering and doing stuff in your local community can help get your name out, but these are just my experiences. 

I was unemployed for a solid 6 months until I started getting out there a lot more and networking, then all of a sudden I got some good leads and had a job starting the next week.
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Re: Network security at work woes
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2012, 11:41:38 AM »
Hey congratulations. I am still looking every day I fill out at least 2 job applications. I will try to volunteer at my local church see if they need anything maybe that will help in the long run.