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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2012, 12:39:20 AM »

69.00$ is the most expensive non-NeoGeo game around.  They are above even Super f*ckup Team.


But this is close: http://www.retrocollect.com/News/atari-lynx-homebrew-shmup-zaku-from-super-fighter-team-back-in-stock.html

For a f*cking Lynx game.  They're also selling shit like a poker game for $40, which is insane considering you can get better versions for your phone for a £.  I appreciate they probably need to sell them at that price to the completeists to cover costs, but why would anyone even make a poker game for the lynx anyway?

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« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2012, 06:26:39 AM »
I just overpayed due to shipping costs. Bought 5 fairly uncommon EU only SMS games for $50. Not a bad price at all for the games, but the $45 shipping from Australia really killed it! Thought combined shipping would be cheaper but I guess not.  :?

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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2012, 04:14:03 PM »
not a bad price for a 32x in "mint" condition.

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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2012, 04:20:50 PM »
For a f*cking Lynx game.  They're also selling shit like a poker game for $40, which is insane considering you can get better versions for your phone for a £.  I appreciate they probably need to sell them at that price to the completeists to cover costs, but why would anyone even make a poker game for the lynx anyway?
Have you played Zaku? It's f*cking awesome. They just copied Air Zonk and made it for lynx. It's probably the best lynx game ever btw
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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2012, 11:18:24 AM »
Today's "Collecting Much" award goes to Kaijuboy!

Qualifications:
1) Serial collector! Indiscriminately chasing every "classic" system from Atari 2600 to PS3!
2) Insta-collector! Sixty-four TG/PCE games purchased in one month!
3) Region/genre/format blind! That's right, he's not motivated by gaming or intimidated by 700-game libraries, he wants to buy "all of them".*
4) Happy to pay Ebay prices, gouger certified!

*Games must include case and manual
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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2012, 11:22:37 AM »
lol

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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2012, 03:45:11 PM »
Today's "Collecting Much" award goes to Kaijuboy!

Qualifications:
1) Serial collector! Indiscriminately chasing every "classic" system from Atari 2600 to PS3!
2) Insta-collector! Sixty-four TG/PCE games purchased in one month!
3) Region/genre/format blind! That's right, he's not motivated by gaming or intimidated by 700-game libraries, he wants to buy "all of them".*
4) Happy to pay Ebay prices, gouger certified!

*Games must include case and manual



I fit these. I fail to see the problem here.
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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2012, 04:32:35 AM »
I fit these. I fail to see the problem here.

The only problem is if you start pissing and moaning because we're not selling you enough games or because we're not including you in certain opportunities due to you not having established yourself as a part of this community.  Nobody here is owed anything, and nobody would've given two f*cks about Kaijuboy if he hadn't started ranting about how much this place sucks.
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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2012, 05:04:29 AM »
Well.. it's not that either.  I'm a collector (for the PCE) and a player (for any decent game on any system), but what this community doesn't want is:

People who are going to pay way over the odds, thus justifying high prices and raising the general price for the rest of us
People who are gonna hoard games and never play them (hence a disparagement of people who mainly post in sales threads).  We're all about the PCE/TG16, and we would prefer to talk to people about the games, the homebrew and the technical aspects.  I've learned 95% of what I know from hanging out here.
People who are going to take advantage of low prices here to build a collection, and then sell off the entire thing months later for a huge profit.  And with someone who has no interest in playing their collection (see point 2) is all the more likely to sell it.  There have been some rad guys who, with money concerns, have offered their stuff back to the community at cost.
And lastly, it's not 100% guaranteed, but someone who wants every game for every system probably
a) Doesn't love the Turbo all that much and
b) realising how many millions it would cost to get every game evar, they'll probably sell off some of the collections they don't play, to fund one of the other collections.

So it's ok to be a collector, but the forum isn't a shopping mall, attaining the games is ideally a means to an end;

discuss games > discover new games > purchase game > play game > discuss game.  That's pretty much how I see it.

I want a full collection one day, but I'm not too fussed with the Majong games just yet, and I probably won't play those when I do get them  but they'll be cheap (I hope) and at least I'll be preserving them rather than bin them because they're ...  less good than other games on the system :)

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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2012, 05:22:23 AM »
Or maybe you'll become a huge Mahjong fan?!

I'm a collector for sure, but I buy games with this kind of priority:

1. Games I want to play that happen to be collectable that are cheap and in good condition.
2. Common games I want to play that are cheap and in good condition.
3. Collectable games that I want to play that are cheap and are in any kind of condition.
4. Collectable games that I want to play that are a little expensive but in great condition.
5. Collectable games that I don't really care about but are cheap and in good condition.
6. Games that I don't really care about but are cheap and in good condition.

Cheap/expensive is relative to it's market value for me. So $50 is extremely expensive for Keith Courage but extremely cheap for Magical Chase. Usually most of the games I buy are under $20, but I've spent up to around $100 on occasion for single titles.

I sometime buy a ton of games in a short period for a given system, but generally I watch the auctions all the time and just wait for good deals. The only time I end up overpaying is when I somehow get screwed on shipping, although I've made a couple mistakes in the past. I'll buy a duplicate of a game I already have if an insanely good deals pops up (around 50% of it's regular market price) for trading purposes or for getting a manual/case in better condition.

Hardware is a bit different as I'll buy broken hardware and try to fix it or buy variations of systems I already own. I'm a bit of an insane collector when it comes to hardware...

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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2012, 05:26:51 AM »
Well said.  I have the same priority, which is why I recently bought 5 good games for the same price I could have had one amazing game.  Can't wait to get my hands on them though!!!

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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2012, 06:49:04 AM »

The only problem is if you start pissing and moaning... Nobody here is owed anything, and nobody would've given two f*cks about Kaijuboy if he hadn't started ranting about how much this place sucks.


I think this is a pretty universal complaint across all forums, regardless of topics. Reading his posts, I don't see him saying anything about the forums sucks, yet I may have missed that. However, those weren't the complaints listed by vestcoat. The complaints listed by vestcoat centered around Kaijuboy's buying and selling of items.



People who are going to pay way over the odds, thus justifying high prices and raising the general price for the rest of us

As an intro, I am far more active on reddit's r/gamecollecting. There, I try and combat this mentality with as much as I can. First of all, this idea is extremely selfish. A seller lists something on Ebay at a price he wants. Then, a buyer has the choice of buying it or waiting for a lower price. The buyer's decision is based on his or her personal discretionary income, desire for the item, and many other factors, none of which are your business. The idea that the price you want to pay should be factored into a buyers decision is just 100% pure self-interest.

Now, if video games were an essential commodity, such as food, water, clothing, shelter, etc, then I would see a problem. (My personal belief is that everyone in society should have access to those.) However, video games are nowhere near necessity. A man earning, lets say, $100,000 a year at his job has every right to spend his extra income how he sees fit. Additionally, given that an hour of his time is worth $50 (assuming 50wk 40hr work week), it doesn't behoove him to spend 2 hours on ebay to save $20. He just lost $80, technically speaking. You expect him to behave in a way that benefits you. He loses $80 so you don't have to spend extra money.

People who are gonna hoard games and never play them (hence a disparagement of people who mainly post in sales threads).  We're all about the PCE/TG16, and we would prefer to talk to people about the games, the homebrew and the technical aspects.  I've learned 95% of what I know from hanging out here.

Who cares what a person does with their games? Why is this any of your business?

People who are going to take advantage of low prices here to build a collection, and then sell off the entire thing months later for a huge profit.  And with someone who has no interest in playing their collection (see point 2) is all the more likely to sell it.  There have been some rad guys who, with money concerns, have offered their stuff back to the community at cost.


This does suck. People using the forums just to profit because people are nice here is just bad karma. Swiss870 is a good example. However, I think that this is a different argument than the one you presented earlier.

And lastly, it's not 100% guaranteed, but someone who wants every game for every system probably
a) Doesn't love the Turbo all that much and

I love the TG-16, its one of my fav things to collect now. However, it shouldn't be a prerequisite for collecting.



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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2012, 06:53:53 AM »
Today's "Collecting Much" award goes to Kaijuboy!

Qualifications:
1) Serial collector! Indiscriminately chasing every "classic" system from Atari 2600 to PS3!
2) Insta-collector! Sixty-four TG/PCE games purchased in one month!
3) Region/genre/format blind! That's right, he's not motivated by gaming or intimidated by 700-game libraries, he wants to buy "all of them".*
4) Happy to pay Ebay prices, gouger certified!

*Games must include case and manual



I fit these. I fail to see the problem here.
There's nothing wrong with it; I just hate rich pricks. Insta-collectors and serial collectors experience life by how much money they spend. Kaijuboy isn't driven by nostalgia, a love of gaming, or even collecting, he just needs a commodity to shit dollars on every month. He has no particular interest in the TG16; he's purchasing every video game under the sun.
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Re: Collecting Much?
« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2012, 08:44:26 AM »
Reading his posts, I don't see him saying anything about the forums sucks, yet I may have missed that.

Did you miss where he accused us of being exclusionary to newcomers, claimed to be shunned and ignored, declared some seller's/raffler's rules to be nothing more than dick waving, and that 'everything he sees here is petty, childish, and elitist'?  That hardly sounds like he likes it here.
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