Author Topic: Behold the latest AbCard  (Read 2888 times)

Mishran

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Re: Behold the latest AbCard
« Reply #75 on: July 23, 2012, 03:27:17 PM »
Noticed the Aetherbyte site is getting a facelift. Sweet...

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Re: Behold the latest AbCard
« Reply #76 on: July 23, 2012, 04:06:49 PM »
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would the IDE Adapter simply connect to the rear port of a TG16/PCE Core System
Yes. Think replacement cd base.

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Given that the PCE uses modified SCSI, that might be easy to hack
PCE uses a sub-set of standard scsi. And, fyi, IDE is only simplified scsi :)

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I'd rather see a system card that packages the ADPCM hardware and a CD Emulation BIOS with a large pool of flash memory. CD on a card.
So would I. It would probably cost > $5000 or so, but it would be neat...
Keep in mind, you are asking for:
1) over 650M of flash memory. At 1M for $10 (AM29f080), that's $6,500, not including other support chips.
2) Another 8K and an adpcm chip. That they don't make anymore. Good luck.
And what about backup memory?

(Yes, maybe I exaggerated the problem. However, you would have to do all the cd hardware handling on the card. Half of the signals available through the external port on a tg don't exist on the card bus. Ergo, you would have to decode -all- the cd hardware from just writes to addresses. sounds like a huge multi-layer card would be needed...)

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Now, consider what I've actually said:
 1) we make a board, like the cd-adapter, that accepts an ide drive. We have plenty of board space to use an fpga (or hell, a micro-controller if we want) to run the adpcm, backup memory, and ide.
 2) we figure out the cd-bios, and mimic the calls to use the custom adapter.
It might cost $300 to make; probably not, though.

Then think about this: Assuming that ide is standard across devices (or that the programming accounts for differences), what would stop you from hooking up a hard drive? That was charlies first choice.
Or better yet, using an ide->compact flash adapter. Compact flash may not be the cheapest route, but they aren't that expensive....


Or my favorite: adding a usb controller, so you can use an external usb drive :)
Could you also integrate various Audio and Video Outputs into the back panel:
S-Video, SCART, Component, RCA Stereo, Headphone, VGA, and so on?

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Re: Behold the latest AbCard
« Reply #77 on: July 23, 2012, 05:28:52 PM »
I would be OK with an expansion port-connected device. I think having simply an SD-card adapter might reduce the cost a little over an IDE interface, as IDE is very much on the way out and there are all sorts of different offerings out there for dealing with SD cards.
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Re: Behold the latest AbCard
« Reply #78 on: July 23, 2012, 06:57:47 PM »
remember a CD is a serial data device, just like an SD card.
most ADPCM chips are expansions/upgrades of the original chip used in the dock/duo, (meaning they are code compatable)

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would the IDE Adapter simply connect to the rear port of a TG16/PCE Core System
Yes. Think replacement cd base.

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Given that the PCE uses modified SCSI, that might be easy to hack
PCE uses a sub-set of standard scsi. And, fyi, IDE is only simplified scsi :)

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I'd rather see a system card that packages the ADPCM hardware and a CD Emulation BIOS with a large pool of flash memory. CD on a card.
So would I. It would probably cost > $5000 or so, but it would be neat...
Keep in mind, you are asking for:
1) over 650M of flash memory. At 1M for $10 (AM29f080), that's $6,500, not including other support chips.
2) Another 8K and an adpcm chip. That they don't make anymore. Good luck.
And what about backup memory?

(Yes, maybe I exaggerated the problem. However, you would have to do all the cd hardware handling on the card. Half of the signals available through the external port on a tg don't exist on the card bus. Ergo, you would have to decode -all- the cd hardware from just writes to addresses. sounds like a huge multi-layer card would be needed...)

................................................
Now, consider what I've actually said:
 1) we make a board, like the cd-adapter, that accepts an ide drive. We have plenty of board space to use an fpga (or hell, a micro-controller if we want) to run the adpcm, backup memory, and ide.
 2) we figure out the cd-bios, and mimic the calls to use the custom adapter.
It might cost $300 to make; probably not, though.

Then think about this: Assuming that ide is standard across devices (or that the programming accounts for differences), what would stop you from hooking up a hard drive? That was charlies first choice.
Or better yet, using an ide->compact flash adapter. Compact flash may not be the cheapest route, but they aren't that expensive....


Or my favorite: adding a usb controller, so you can use an external usb drive :)
Could you also integrate various Audio and Video Outputs into the back panel:
S-Video, SCART, Component, RCA Stereo, Headphone, VGA, and so on?

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Re: Behold the latest AbCard
« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2012, 03:20:05 AM »
Yeah, the site did get a facelift.


http://aetherbyte.com/

Check that jive out!
[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
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Re: Behold the latest AbCard
« Reply #80 on: July 24, 2012, 03:28:52 AM »
Yeah, the site did get a facelift.


http://aetherbyte.com/

Check that jive out!


Lookin' good!