some dude in denver opens fire at a Batman premier

[TheClash603]

Good thing most of the movies I go to some goony-ass theatre where usually theres like 8 people there including employees.

No ones going to bother shooting up some back room porn theater at a adult only store anyway.

I go to the ghetto downtown theater too, where it is typically just me and a handful of black people.  When I saw no other white people at Batman, it made me feel safer.  Black people typically don't do crazy theater shoot-ups/Columbine shit.

[storino03]

Mcveigh I thought it was O_o

[Joe Redifer]

In other news, far Left democrats figured out a way to blame Sarah Palin ("Don't retreat, reload!"), the Tea Party, and right-wing AM Talk Radio (Rush Limbaugh) for inspiring this attacker. I see the NRA was already in the cross-hairs before I got here, no surprise there!

Is it their fault now?  I've seen it argued that Obama staged it so he could win the election by being sympathetic.  And of course he made the new Batman movie solely to attack Mittens because he worked for some place called Bain.  I guess this whole thing is the fault of whoever anyone wants it to be.

[Sadler]

In other news, far Left democrats figured out a way to blame Sarah Palin ("Don't retreat, reload!"), the Tea Party, and right-wing AM Talk Radio (Rush Limbaugh) for inspiring this attacker. I see the NRA was already in the cross-hairs before I got here, no surprise there!

Is it their fault now?  I've seen it argued that Obama staged it so he could win the election by being sympathetic.  And of course he made the new Batman movie solely to attack Mittens because he worked for some place called Bain.  I guess this whole thing is the fault of whoever anyone wants it to be.

I know it's cliche, but it's no ones fault but the shooters. I don't understand why people are trying to pin this on any group. What are you going to do with that information?

[RegalSin]

Also every Batman movie after "Batman Return" starting with "Batman and Robin"

I go to the ghetto downtown theater too, where it is typically just me and a handful of black people.  When I saw no other white people at Batman, it made me feel safer.  Black people typically don't do crazy theater shoot-ups/Columbine shit.

ROTFL...........ha ha ha.......run you pockets ha ha

[NightWolve]

I don't understand why people are trying to pin this on any group.

For opportunistic, partisan political gain of course, why else? Happens all the time. One of the worse cases I saw was when Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head last year.

I've seen it argued that Obama staged it so he could win the election by being sympathetic.

I dunno how anybody would attempt to make a serious connection to Obama in that way. That's too ridiculous to be taken seriously with no way to link it. In contrast, there were serious attempts to link "violent rhetoric" (e.g. "Don't retreat, reload!") and crosshair use on district maps by Sarah Palin to the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords, not just by hacks on forums, but by MSM news anchors. ABC7 Chicago was talking about the incident and reporting that Sarah had removed the crosshair stuff, didn't bother to report that that was standard stuff used by both parties for years, and instead one of them sarcastically says, "Gee, thanks Sarah" as if to make a serious connection that her crosshair image use on Gabrielle's district led to the assassination attempt, that it inspired the assassin, etc.. Overall, there was a deliberate attempt to embarrass and pin some blame on her which forced her to apologize and remove that stuff from her website, etc.

And of course he made the new Batman movie solely to attack Mittens because he worked for some place called Bain.

The Bain/Bane rumblings have been about how democrats can connect Romney and his former company (Bain capital) to the villain in the movie to help smear him and whatnot. Jon Stewart already joked about it. It started here on the 16th. Democratic adviser and former Clinton aide Christopher Lehane says, "Whether it is spelled Bain and being put out by the Obama campaign or Bane and being out by Hollywood, the narratives are similar: a highly intelligent villain with offshore interests and a past both are seeking to cover up who had a powerful father and is set on pillaging society..." The other aspect to it asks if it was an intentional choice to name the character 'Bane' so as to make the connection to 'Bain', but that's very silly/wrong since the Bane character was created in the 1990s; it was already apart of Batman comic history. Entirely coincidental the Bain/Bane name game (as it's being referred to).

Also every Batman movie after "Batman Return" starting with "Batman and Robin"

Heh-heh, this guy... OK, I think you forgot to finish your thought there. So after every Batman movie after "Batman Returns" starting with "Batman & Robin" what ??

[vestcoat]

the first one under Chris Nolan (Batman Begins) still remains my favorite (Liam Neeson, and ass-kicking ninjas living up in the mountains always makes the difference in my book),

Yeah, the first half of Batman Begins was awesome (not that the rest of the movie wasn't great, but the first half was especially good).  It was totally new and unexpected for a Batman movie. I also liked the unusual Gotham aesthetic and having villains I wasn't familiar with.

Major Complaint: big cineplexes are too loud. I love a wide dynamic range, bass, surround sound, and an immersive movie environment as much as the next guy, but I've taken to wearing ear plugs when I go anywhere other than the mom-and-pop cinema down the street. And yeah, subtitles would be nice too.

[vestcoat]

I don't understand why people are trying to pin this on any group.

For opportunistic, partisan political gain of course, why else? Happens all the time. One of the worse cases I saw was when Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was shot in the head last year.

It was funny how she was suddenly a Republican according to Fox News.

[NightWolve]

It was funny how she was suddenly a Republican according to Fox News.

Hm, I thought I heard she was an ex-republican, about it. Her Wiki page just says, "She has described herself as a 'former Republican'" - but she's always been a democrat publicly. Well, I'd be surprised if they managed get a party label wrong again. Stuff like that is too easy to use to attack one's credibility. They made that mistake before with Mark Foley, but fixed it in the next rebroadcast of that same show. But I remember an image being paraded around of him wrongly being reported as a democrat way back in that case.

Major Complaint: big cineplexes are too loud. I love a wide dynamic range, bass, surround sound, and an immersive movie environment as much as the next guy, but I've taken to wearing ear plugs when I go anywhere other than the mom-and-pop cinema down the street. And yeah, subtitles would be nice too.

I think that was apart of the the problem too, the volume was way too high for this movie causing distortion at times. I just could not understand Bane most of the time, other parts of the movie too!

[Sadler]

No.

[Joe Redifer]

Major Complaint: big cineplexes are too loud. I love a wide dynamic range, bass, surround sound, and an immersive movie environment as much as the next guy, but I've taken to wearing ear plugs when I go anywhere other than the mom-and-pop cinema down the street. And yeah, subtitles would be nice too.

Well, most likely they're just poorly EQ'd.  I see (hear) this A LOT.  Usually the 4-8K ranges of frequencies are WAY too hot.  It makes dialog painful and if someone in the movie fires a gun then kiss your eardrums goodbye.  The biggest issue is that the technician uses his RTA to EQ the auditorium and he EQs straight to the line.  Once it looks OK on the RTA he unplugs and moves on to the next auditorium.  This is absolutely the wrong way to do a B-chain in an auditorium.  A technician worth his salt will listen to known material after his B-chain and make the necessary adjustments.  Yup, you've got to bring with you sound that you are intimately familiar with and test it each and every time.  You cannot rely solely on what the equipment tells you or you will end up with awful, harsh sound.  My auditorium EQs can be turned up much more than other theaters and nobody ever complains that it is too loud despite the dial being at 7 or a bit above (most theaters run at 6 at the highest).  Loud doesn't mean painful.  Benjamin Bratt complimented me on my sound when he screened a movie he directed in an auditorium I EQ'd.  I also took one of the worst sounding auditoriums for Star Wars Episode 1 and made it into one of the best sounding just by redoing the entire B-chain.  This was noticed by customers but not anyone from a studio.  Unfortunately I don't work in the theater biz any more so I'm pretty disappointed any time I see a movie in a theater these days.  Thank the flying spaghetti monster for good home theater sound.

[soop]

That's pretty interesting about the sound.  I considered a home cinema sound system a few years back, but I have a funny shaped room, and I don't really want to spend a lot.  I have to say, although I don't go to the movies a lot, Idon't really notice the sound being bad - and since I have really good hearing, I would have thought I'd notice if it caused me discomfort.

Actually, I listen to the radio a lot, and I do tend to notice bad levels - if you remember that Dre song from about 2 years back where there's a flatline noise in the middle of a song?  On normal volume, with earphones, that was f*cking earsplitting on BBC radio.  I sent them an email telling them to sort it the f*ck out, and whether or not that was the catalyst, they did shortly after.  It's a shit song anyway.  But they do often get it wrong with higher pitches.

[esteban]

Major Complaint: big cineplexes are too loud. I love a wide dynamic range, bass, surround sound, and an immersive movie environment as much as the next guy, but I've taken to wearing ear plugs when I go anywhere other than the mom-and-pop cinema down the street. And yeah, subtitles would be nice too.

Well, most likely they're just poorly EQ'd.  I see (hear) this A LOT.  Usually the 4-8K ranges of frequencies are WAY too hot.  It makes dialog painful and if someone in the movie fires a gun then kiss your eardrums goodbye.  The biggest issue is that the technician uses his RTA to EQ the auditorium and he EQs straight to the line.  Once it looks OK on the RTA he unplugs and moves on to the next auditorium.  This is absolutely the wrong way to do a B-chain in an auditorium.  A technician worth his salt will listen to known material after his B-chain and make the necessary adjustments.  Yup, you've got to bring with you sound that you are intimately familiar with and test it each and every time.  You cannot rely solely on what the equipment tells you or you will end up with awful, harsh sound.  My auditorium EQs can be turned up much more than other theaters and nobody ever complains that it is too loud despite the dial being at 7 or a bit above (most theaters run at 6 at the highest).  Loud doesn't mean painful.  Benjamin Bratt complimented me on my sound when he screened a movie he directed in an auditorium I EQ'd.  I also took one of the worst sounding auditoriums for Star Wars Episode 1 and made it into one of the best sounding just by redoing the entire B-chain.  This was noticed by customers but not anyone from a studio.  Unfortunately I don't work in the theater biz any more so I'm pretty disappointed any time I see a movie in a theater these days.  Thank the flying spaghetti monster for good home theater sound.

I had never considered the procedure that technicians use when setting levels in a theatre. I thought that staff just fooled around with things (trial and error) until it sounded "OK".

Yes, I'm serious. I'm totally ignorant about the theatre scene.

But I can relate to the harsh acoustics. I always assumed it was the source material/over-worked sound equipment at theatre. It never occurred to me that you could actually adjust the EQ. Ha!

[storino03]

Knowing is half the battle!

[NightWolve]

Well, most likely they're just poorly EQ'd.  I see (hear) this A LOT.  Usually the 4-8K ranges of frequencies are WAY too hot. It makes dialog painful and if someone in the movie fires a gun then kiss your eardrums goodbye.

Yeah, what he's describing is what I experienced: I couldn't tell what Bane was saying most of the time, a voice which I have since learned was manipulated for effect and the explosions/gunfire would blast my eardrums! This is the 2nd time I've been to this particular theater, I saw the new Alien movie Prometheus there. I don't go to theaters much, but I don't remember a case where it was this bad. Anyway, I'm not the best judge because I think I have lost some hearing and I do prefer watching movies with subtitles on these days; I'd turn them off, but then a point would come when something wasn't clear and I'd have to rewind, turn them back on to understand it, so eventually I just gave up and now I always keep them on... It sucks cause I can't keep my eyes from looking at them first, a habit that develops with their use - you're looking down most of the time, missing facial expressions, etc.