Author Topic: Macross 2036.... meh  (Read 1228 times)

ProfessorProfessorson

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Macross 2036.... meh
« on: August 16, 2012, 08:31:22 PM »
I wanted to like this one a lot, but right out of the gate I just notice these dumb issues with the game. Sometimes that radar warning thing doesn't always kick on right. Some enemy attacks are not able to be defended from at all hardly and it doesn't help that the game wont let you re-select the same special attack weapon each stage unless you die and continue. THAT FORWARD LASER FIRING THING THAT CANT SHOOT STRAIGHT IS USELESS!!! I WANT MY f*ckING TRACKING MISSILES EACH STAGE GODDAMMIT!!!. There is these spots in the game were it just slows down for what seems like no reason, the game just bogs down to a grinding halt almost and it doesn't seem like justified slowdown because other spots with more going on were smoother. Some enemies look cheap and low detail too which was really annoying considering how detailed others are, and the background graphics in many areas could be much better.

The one round orb enemy thing that zooms in and out right in the one stage where your ship rams the other, that orb was one of the worst looking enemies in the game in fact. And that one dumb enemy with the "magic blue orb buttons" that splits apart had the worst attack pattern going on. It didn't even make sense enemy wise to keep popping the orb back out. Its like they thought "hey Konami gradius/salamander bosses have orbs that need to be destroyed, so can we". But the thing is the Gradius/Lifefoce ones don't just leave them automatically exposed so the boss doesn't get left there hung out to dry. Oh, and f*cking being inside the enemy ship, with enemies dropping out of the ceilings which don't have access panels opening or anything, so it gives no warning, was f*cking weak and looked retarded.

As is I don't think I will bother to finish this one. The developer took a great franchise and really just took way way too many shortcuts and liberties on the games development preventing it from shining like it should have, so the game feels more like average fare. It would be understandable if the game was just some new property and all, but this is Macross, and other Macross titles released do a much better job of representing the series.

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 01:27:27 AM »
I am not too crazy about ut either but a lot of people love it. It really is one of the best macross games released though, most macross games are so bad and at least 2036 is decent.
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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 03:16:46 AM »
I like Macross 2036, but it does have it's isses.  Like you said punk it is one of the better Macross games out there but as a shooter it's fairly average with some issues.  Nice cut-scenes and music but that really only matters more to a Macross otaku. Macross by Zamuse on the SFC is better to me from a shooter standpoint.

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2012, 04:15:06 AM »
Isn't it also very easy?  I remember blowing through it in one sitting... but that was years ago.  Maybe I'm mistaken.

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2012, 04:21:49 AM »
Isn't it also very easy?  I remember blowing through it in one sitting... but that was years ago.  Maybe I'm mistaken.

Other then a few spots, yeah it is pretty easy over all, on normal anyway. The bosses are a joke for the most part. If I didn't stop playing I'd prob have beat it in one sitting too.

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2012, 04:28:11 AM »
Most of the Macross games is the same exact game redesign, unless this one is differnt. I havent, bother to get this because the story is the exact same story. Macross flamed out faster then Voltron, Towards the late 1990's, Unless you follow the continuing storyline,

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2012, 04:58:20 AM »
Isn't it also very easy?  I remember blowing through it in one sitting... but that was years ago.  Maybe I'm mistaken.

lol, that's right, same here.
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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2012, 05:02:14 AM »
i also like macross scrambled valkyrie on sfc the better, but that's because it is one of the best shewty on the system anyway.

and because of this :)


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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2012, 05:09:46 AM »
i also like macross scrambled valkyrie on sfc the better, but that's because it is one of the best shewty on the system anyway.

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Yeah see that's what I'm talking about. You look at that game and then you look at 2036 and its like wtf happened, and there is no excuse for it considering the hardware 2036 was developed on?

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2012, 08:42:05 AM »
Macross Ein No Love song is a much better game IMO. Seriously though, they need to make more Macross strategy games like that. Also, Macross VO for the PC is just plain awesome.

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2012, 08:54:18 AM »
When it was released it was considered good because it was much better than the FC or computer games. The cutscenes are extremely good and a decent amount of original art was made for the new Valks, characters, etc.

Nowadays though, after the (amazing) SFC game and the two arcade releases...it doesn't hold up. I like it, but not strictly for the gameplay, for the whole experience. It's almost as good as a mini OVA in terms of "new Macross stuff". Keep in mind that at the time the newest Macross was Macross II, which wasn't very good, and before that there was just the original TV, movie, and Flashback. We were Macross starved!

The stage with the line scrolling water is pretty nice however it's nothing compared to the SFC game. I'm not sure there is much on SFC that compares to the SFC game. It's pretty wonderful.

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #11 on: August 17, 2012, 09:04:00 AM »
The stage with the line scrolling water is pretty nice however it's nothing compared to the SFC game.

You talking about the stage with the reflective water and pillar things that can be blasted away? If so then yeah that was kind of the most impressive stage to me in the game.

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #12 on: August 17, 2012, 09:44:43 AM »
Wow...after all this talk about Macross games, i'm suprised nobody mentioned Robotech: BattleCry for ps2, gc, xbox?!
I think it's the only one that's pretty good after graphics went 3D, and it had alot of depth too. There were real differences between fighting in Veritech mode vs. Battleroid mode, and there were some pretty cool mission objectives (although some where pissing tedious...).

I guess if you guys are loyal to the japanese anime and detest the US version Robotech, i can understand...

So in the end Prof...are you selling? hahah

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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2012, 09:50:40 AM »
Wow...after all this talk about Macross games, i'm suprised nobody mentioned Robotech: BattleCry for ps2, gc, xbox?!
I think it's the only one that's pretty good after graphics went 3D, and it had alot of depth too. There were real differences between fighting in Veritech mode vs. Battleroid mode, and there were some pretty cool mission objectives (although some where pissing tedious...).

I guess if you guys are loyal to the japanese anime and detest the US version Robotech, i can understand...

So in the end Prof...are you selling? hahah

Most/all of the psp games (and Gundam...all based off the same engine IIRC) are good to great.
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Re: Macross 2036.... meh
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2012, 09:58:31 AM »
So in the end Prof...are you selling? hahah

Not yet lol. I told Bernie I'd give him a heads up if I decide to sell or trade it, so he has first dibs. I may give the game another go. I'm just hard pressed to do so when I have quite a few better shooters sitting here that don't try to hold my hand on their power up system. And to be honest, I do like the cover art at least.