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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #75 on: August 29, 2012, 09:44:07 AM »
the hyndai will shutdown around 90-110

My 98 hyundai sonota topped out at 123 according to the stock odometer.  And it took a hell of along time to get from 100 to 120.  It handled rather poorley to the corrections I tried to make at that speed too. But it made it.

You mean speedometer. An odometer tells you how many miles the car has traveled in its lifetime
Yep, thought about this as I went to work today! screwed that up, Was wondering when someone was going to call me out on that.

Although by that mistake in wording I would have been traveling at 100,000 miles per hour. I believe the car would have fallen apart, but it'd be one hell of a ride.
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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #76 on: August 29, 2012, 11:48:14 AM »
Zeta, I appreciate the advice.  So it seems the 2011 Regal Turbo and 2012 Sonata Turbo are not worth taking to the track, at least without some sort of racing tires.

Well, the tires aren't really the problem. A Vette or a Miata would be fine on any tires. The cars you have are very big and heavy and front wheel drive and the suspension is soft and designed to lean toward understear. If you put race tires on it then you'd just learn how easy it is to roll the car. :) Consider a CTS or a 5 series if you want big powerful and track worthy. Your cars are much more designed for comfort, long cruises, and getting decent fuel economy, and from what I understand they are very good at that. Meanwhile my Miata gets only 26 MPG and the wind noise is even worse than the rattling interior. :)

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Last question.  If you were to max out a car's speed, can that damage a car?  Or is the car built for that speed, so it is okay?

My girlfriend claimed going too fast could break my car, I don't buy it.

Well, as long as your tires can handle it and the engine temps aren't getting to hot, no, speed itself is irrelevent. A modern car is designed well enough so that self destruction is almost impossible if it's properly maintained.

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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #77 on: August 29, 2012, 01:45:11 PM »
Zeta, I appreciate the advice.  So it seems the 2011 Regal Turbo and 2012 Sonata Turbo are not worth taking to the track, at least without some sort of racing tires.

Well, the tires aren't really the problem. A Vette or a Miata would be fine on any tires. The cars you have are very big and heavy and front wheel drive and the suspension is soft and designed to lean toward understear. If you put race tires on it then you'd just learn how easy it is to roll the car. :) Consider a CTS or a 5 series if you want big powerful and track worthy. Your cars are much more designed for comfort, long cruises, and getting decent fuel economy, and from what I understand they are very good at that. Meanwhile my Miata gets only 26 MPG and the wind noise is even worse than the rattling interior. :)


Apparently I bought a terrible car, my Regal Turbo only gets 16.3 MPG and I can't even play with it on a track.  I am sure the fact I only do city driving kills it though and you are right that it is very comfortable.

Final question (for real).  If you have an all-wheel drive vehicle, would that be usable on a track?  Or is only a rear wheel drive car appropriate?  I honestly would love to get on a track and play around, but living in Buffalo, NY rear-wheel drive isn't really an option (unless you want 2 cars, which I don't).  I was thinking of an ATS when I upgrade to my next car, but I would definitely get the all-wheel drive variety.  If that isn't track ready, then I guess my dreams of being a racer will never come true!

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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #78 on: August 29, 2012, 01:53:27 PM »
The new Turbo Regal isn't a bad car at all (my younger brother has one... black on black, manual trans, with an aftermarket tune...very nice car), it's just not the kind of car you buy to go racing on a sanctioned racetrack. You can go to a dragstrip, however, no matter what kind of tires you have on it (provided they're not worn out) and still have fun. Off-the-line traction may suffer, but it wouldn't be dangerous to not have a dedicated drag radial or full slick for participation
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« Reply #79 on: August 29, 2012, 02:01:36 PM »
Don't feel too bad, Clash.  Our Rodeo gets about the same MPG.  Lol, I just had this image in my head of the Rodeo at the drag strip.  That would be a sight indeed!

Our other car is an older Acura TL.  It's fun to drive, but not in the same leage as some of y'all so I'm not going to take a picture of it and post it here. :)

Before the TL I had an Integra, and that was a blast to drive, especially when we lived in San Diego.  So many twisty roads, so little time.

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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #80 on: August 29, 2012, 02:53:57 PM »
Don't feel too bad, Clash.  Our Rodeo gets about the same MPG.  Lol, I just had this image in my head of the Rodeo at the drag strip.  That would be a sight indeed!

Our other car is an older Acura TL.  It's fun to drive, but not in the same leage as some of y'all so I'm not going to take a picture of it and post it here. :)

Before the TL I had an Integra, and that was a blast to drive, especially when we lived in San Diego.  So many twisty roads, so little time.

Thanks for using up all of the world's fossil fuel with me!

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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #81 on: August 29, 2012, 03:11:09 PM »
Thanks for using up all of the world's fossil fuel with me!


Oh, that ain't even the half of it. :) 

Our RV only gets 8mpg on a good day!


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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #82 on: August 29, 2012, 04:33:43 PM »
Thanks for using up all of the world's fossil fuel with me!

Oh, that ain't even the half of it. :) 

Our RV only gets 8mpg on a good day!


If we got this bad boy on a track, what do you think is top speed?

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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #83 on: August 29, 2012, 04:47:38 PM »
If we got this bad boy on a track, what do you think is top speed?

The limiter kicks in at 75 mph. :D

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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #84 on: August 29, 2012, 04:51:31 PM »
Apparently I bought a terrible car, my Regal Turbo only gets 16.3 MPG and I can't even play with it on a track.  I am sure the fact I only do city driving kills it though and you are right that it is very comfortable.

Must be nice.. I get about 15mpg in my old BMW.... City driving absolutely kills this car.  Highway, it'll get around 28mpg at 80mph all day long.  I guess they designed these cars with driving fast at all times.  When my brother moved from California to Tennessee, he drove this car.  Most of the way through Kansas and Missouri he averaged over 100mph and still got almost 30mpg.  Though his fuel / time savings would have been crashed if he had gotten pulled over...
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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #85 on: August 29, 2012, 06:58:28 PM »
Currently have 68 and 69 Firebirds, daily driver I have a 96 Ram pickup.






Good god these are sexy....
I know you guys are waiting on Picts of my Saturn sc2... In time my friends :p


I perfectly agree - When I first saw the red 68, "sexy as hell" is exactly what went through my mind ... It had a for sale sign on it, 2 days later, I owned it.
The yellow 69 I bought as a project the next year, and is still in various stages of completion.
Kinda an ego boost driving in these cars ,,, Girls smile, guys have a look of awed envy, and kids beg you to spin the wheels. They both run only on high octane fuel, they'll knock and backfire like crazy if I tried any low grade fuel. Might get 10 MPG, so they are a real drain in the wallet, but worth the time & $$ spent keeping them on the road.
They truly don't make em like that anymore, not even close.

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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #86 on: August 30, 2012, 06:54:24 AM »
Zeta, I appreciate the advice.  So it seems the 2011 Regal Turbo and 2012 Sonata Turbo are not worth taking to the track, at least without some sort of racing tires.

Well, the tires aren't really the problem. A Vette or a Miata would be fine on any tires. The cars you have are very big and heavy and front wheel drive and the suspension is soft and designed to lean toward understear. If you put race tires on it then you'd just learn how easy it is to roll the car. :) Consider a CTS or a 5 series if you want big powerful and track worthy. Your cars are much more designed for comfort, long cruises, and getting decent fuel economy, and from what I understand they are very good at that. Meanwhile my Miata gets only 26 MPG and the wind noise is even worse than the rattling interior. :)


Apparently I bought a terrible car, my Regal Turbo only gets 16.3 MPG and I can't even play with it on a track.  I am sure the fact I only do city driving kills it though and you are right that it is very comfortable.

Final question (for real).  If you have an all-wheel drive vehicle, would that be usable on a track?  Or is only a rear wheel drive car appropriate?  I honestly would love to get on a track and play around, but living in Buffalo, NY rear-wheel drive isn't really an option (unless you want 2 cars, which I don't).  I was thinking of an ATS when I upgrade to my next car, but I would definitely get the all-wheel drive variety.  If that isn't track ready, then I guess my dreams of being a racer will never come true!

As far as I can tell, everyone thinks the turbo Regal is really great. It just isn't a performance car. No matter what the numbers say, no matter what the salesman said. Its a quality passenger sedan, it just has completely different priorities.

When the G8 came out GM made a big deal about how on paper it was as good or better than a 5 series in every way. To some extent I agree with them. That is, if you drive both and you literally cannot tell why the 5 is worth more money, more maintenance costs, dealer-only fleecings, etc, then by all means buy the G8. If you can't see why the 5 is better then you would be wasting your money. Anyone who has owned a string of BMWs isn't going to go for that though.

And the G8 was a friggn' Pagani Zonda compared to the Regal.

BTW, 16.8 MPG is f*cking ridiculous. Are you running E85 or something? That's exceptionally bad. That's worse than my '93 Chevy pickup than I only do winter city driving with.

As for FWD/AWD/RWD. I assume by mentioning that you live in Buffalo you are thinking that RWD doesn't work in snow. This isn't true at all. We get just as much snow in Michigan, so does Germany, and I assure you Ann Arbor is swimming in BMWs, Mercedes, Porsches, and pick-up trucks year round. With modern day suspension, tire, and traction control technologies there is no reason for a safe driver in a well maintained car to fear snow. Now, a Mustang with a broken ABS sensor and summer-only tires? He's f*cked.

As for on the track, neither is inherently superior. There are plenty of high performance FWD cars that can clean my clock like GTIs, Intengras, Mini Coopers S, Abarth 500s, etc. The main difference between those cars and what you have though is about 1000lbs  of mechanical flab. :) Small and FWD is fine, big and FWD is not good for the track. A performance-oriented AWD system is an advantage, but only if you have the power to push it along. A WRX or Evo will fly with AWD, but it just slows down an Audi TT or Ford Taurus. I honesty think that AWD has outlived its usefulness in anything but off-road oriented applications or extreme performance supercars. FWD is the most practical, RWD is the most fun.

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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #87 on: August 30, 2012, 08:39:39 AM »
Now, a Mustang with a broken ABS sensor and summer-only tires? He's f*cked.

Heh, ain't that the truth.  I'm just fine after I swap in the snowshoes and a bag of sand though.
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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2012, 03:06:26 PM »
when i was in Texas i drove a 77 impala.
when we got freezing rain i could hold the road, but the civic's couldnt

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Re: Show off your whips!
« Reply #89 on: August 30, 2012, 04:55:59 PM »

BTW, 16.8 MPG is f*cking ridiculous. Are you running E85 or something? That's exceptionally bad. That's worse than my '93 Chevy pickup than I only do winter city driving with.

I always use 91 or 93, unfortunately 16.3 MPG is all I get.  I attribute the low MPG largely to Buffalo having horribly timed lights, but who knows?

I will have to take your word for it and look at some RWD cars next time I go to buy.  I was always told you spin out easily in snow/ice.