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wilykat

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #30 on: August 27, 2012, 03:16:28 PM »
That would be cool!  Red/yellow combo for USA TG-16

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2012, 04:35:46 PM »
Old Man, I don't think gluing would be a good option, as it would look nasty with clear acrylic.
Not picturing your concept too well ,,, But you could certainly rig something up as a backing, as it is, if so inclined. I was wondering what an aluminum foil backing would look like ,,, And I sometimes paint the design too.
I did some Stones tongues, looked great clear but I painted one red, and that looked nice too. I think with this, black letters would look nice, maybe I'll try that on my prototype.
Not sure how you'd secure a backing on clear acrylic without it showing, maybe very small amounts of clear drying glue along the edges, or maybe just in the corners.

Here are 2 more I did tonight, both are almost flawless.
[I've been a union carpenter for almost 15 years, and I also sell many crafted things professionally, so I tend to be pretty meticulous with stuff like this. I have a scrap pile, and I'm not shy using it whenever I create something that is not up to my standards].

First one shows the logo outlined instead of filled in. 2nd one doesn't show up all that well, but the corners are a bit rounded. 3rd pic illustrates size with a pack of smokes [they are 100's].
Not sure which style I like best, I think they both are pretty neat looking.
These are all 8x6", I'll probably offer them 10X8" for $10 extra, for those who need something just a bit bigger.









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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2012, 04:52:21 PM »
I'm surprised I like the outline version as much as I do.  I would have thought the solid version would kick it's ass, but it's pretty close for me.  That said, I still prefer (just barely) the solid fill.  

These are pretty awesome.

I think what OldMan was saying, or maybe not, was to have two layers.  Two pieces of acrylic with part of the TG logo on one and part on the other, then light one yellow, and one orange, just like the logo on the console.



[EDIT] BTW, I have no idea how big a pack of 100s is.  Could you put a quarter beside it?
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2012, 05:00:25 PM »
I'd pay a lot more than $60 for something like this. :)

How about a trade for MC ??
Not that much, Ok !
Once you rig up or purchase a base, get a LED strip, on/off switch, power supply ect, probably will end up having another $20-$30 into it.
[Could make it battery operated as well, which would run LED's damn near forever].
There may be other cheaper lighting solutions, haven't really though much about it. You could simply rig up a cheap laser or 2 to point right on the edge, but lasers I don't think are designed to be on for long periods of time. I got to find a link I had of an outfit selling custom aluminum bases, strips, power supply for under $30, that would be the way to go for most folks for a pro look at a reasonable cost, unless you are good at fabricating yourself.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2012, 05:04:37 PM »
I'm surprised I like the outline version as much as I do.  I would have thought the solid version would kick it's ass, but it's pretty close for me.  That said, I still prefer (just barely) the solid fill.  

These are pretty awesome.

I think what OldMan was saying, or maybe not, was to have two layers.  Two pieces of acrylic with part of the TG logo on one and part on the other, then light one yellow, and one orange, just like the logo on the console.



[EDIT] BTW, I have no idea how big a pack of 100s is.  Could you put a quarter beside it?


Wow, that would be quite an effect.
Possible in theory, I guess what you'd have to work out is the LEDs of one color beaming on one block, then the other color, necessarily very close, beaming on the other. For sure possible, it would take tinkering & rigging.
A possible, and much simpler, alternative would be to paint the letters to your liking, then beam clear light at it - Should light right up in its respective colors just fine, don't see why it wouldn't.

Smoke pack is 4x2 inches.
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2012, 05:09:29 PM »
I'm surprised I like the outline version as much as I do.  I would have thought the solid version would kick it's ass, but it's pretty close for me.  That said, I still prefer (just barely) the solid fill.  

These are pretty awesome.

I think what OldMan was saying, or maybe not, was to have two layers.  Two pieces of acrylic with part of the TG logo on one and part on the other, then light one yellow, and one orange, just like the logo on the console.



[EDIT] BTW, I have no idea how big a pack of 100s is.  Could you put a quarter beside it?


Wow, that would be quite an effect.
Possible in theory, I guess what you'd have to work out is the LEDs of one color beaming on one block, then the other color, necessarily very close, beaming on the other. For sure possible, it would take tinkering & rigging.
A possible, and much simpler, alternative would be to paint the letters to your liking, then beam clear light at it - Should light right up in its respective colors just fine, don't see why it wouldn't.

Smoke pack is 4x2 inches.
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2012, 12:16:26 AM »
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Old Man, I don't think gluing would be a good option, as it would look nasty with clear acrylic.
I thought as much, but was hoping you had a good way to smoothly glue them together :(

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I think what OldMan was saying, or maybe not, was to have two layers.  Two pieces of acrylic with part of the TG logo on one and part on the other, then light one yellow, and one orange, just like the logo on the console.

Right, that's the idea. Then part of the logo would float at a different level, giving a 3-d effect. I think painting on the plexi would ruin that effect, but I might be wrong.  Maybe painting the logo background black would work...

I was also thinking it might be possible to light the sign with a string of leds; if you covered the edge of the plexi with a tinted platic wrap or plastic, you could use white leds, and get whatever color you wanted. Hide them in some black U-channel (which also holds the layers together) and you would have a pretty professional looking 'poster'.

And totally off topic....Where does one get a CNC machine and learn to use it? There's a couple of things I'd like to make....

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2012, 12:53:11 AM »
I was thinking you could drill holes in the corner and use a level screw to keep them together.  Not ideal, but it should work.  Then for the 2 different LEDs, I see no reason why you couldn't create a slot in a block of wood, like the kind you'd stand a menu on, and drill holes for 2 rows of different coloured LEDs. You might have to add an opaque layer at the very bottom to stop the colours cross-talking, but it should work?

X-ray, can you hold 2 of your current signs up together and shine a different coloured laser through each?

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2012, 03:18:18 AM »
This is an awesome thread.  If I had any more space in my office, I'd totally pick one up.  I'll be keeping my eye on these. Thanks! :)

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2012, 03:45:04 AM »
Old Man, I don't think gluing would be a good option, as it would look nasty with clear acrylic.

It's probably not really a DIY solution, but a pvb interlayer (used in window glazing) would work.  You'd have to have the smooth sides facing each other, though.
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2012, 06:38:05 AM »
You had me at "Pall"...



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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2012, 07:07:28 AM »
I like the way you guys think ,,, By nature, most forums where guys gravitate, you will find a fair share of thinkers and do it yourselfers.
Very much in CNC, and most any artform, in only limited by the imagination.
The concept of lighting is simple, but the actual implementation can go a number of different routes.
Most guys end up using led strips, with a row on the bottom. In theory, you could surround the whole thing with a strip, since you can literally buy strips 5 ft long, at you are able to cut whatever length you need - Oldman is thinking correctly, some kind of U channel would be just the ticket for a professional, framed look that would also cover the LEDs.
Don't think it would be practical or desirable to drill holes for the LED's ,,, Though that could well be another approach for a different technique and effect.
The neg thing I see about that is the drill path will be very well defined, as well at the etch itself. It wouldn't drill clear, it would leave a drill etch. That may be fine, depending on what you have in mind ,,, You could then stick some conventional LEDs in the holes, wire them in series, and light em up ... But keep in mind that I don't leave much space between the edges and the design, especially on the top and bottom. This is because 1, don't really need to, and 2, to get as much use as possible of the material that I have.

I will try holding 2 together and beaming different color lasers later on, when I got an extra set of hands or 2 to help. Also, I think I will try my idea of painting on the prototype, which actually, all  I have to do it finish the edges to make it a production model. I'm just not sure how I'd beam clear concentrated light at the edge.
I also made a PC Engine logo ,,, Didn't cut it yet, I mean I have the file made ready to go, I'll cut that later and post back, should look pretty sweet.

Oldman, CNC, like most anything else, takes alot of commitment, trial and error ect. Like most anything else, you'll get out exactly what you put into it. Alot of guys go in expecting to be cranking out masterpieces on their first day, and are sorely disappointed. There is a steep learning curve, not so much with the machine itself, which is actually only a glorified power tool, but with the software and code to run it.
The cheapest ones start off at around $4,000, they are of the hobbyist nature, and not well suited for even something like this. You need a machine with some balls to cut out a chunk of 1/2 plexi. You can get a nice machine for around $9,000 [about $1,000 alone just for shipping] ... Then you'd need to spend an additional $3,000 or so on software, and learn how to use it.
Rockler wood shops have the upper end hobby machine, CNC Shark pro. if you have a Rockler close by, you could have a look. But as I said, if you want something you can grow into, something more towards the industrial side, the cheapest you can go is about $9,000 - And if you really want to jump in head first, and want something you can cut a 4x8 sheet on, you can spend $30-50,000, easily. My machine is only 3x2 ft, but it suits my purposes ,, But theres no question, I'll be upgrading to a larger machine to expand my horizons at some point.

These are the types of things I usually do, as you can imagine, these 2D plexi etchings are fairly simple compared to these complex 3D exotic wood carvings. Crucifix took about 4 hours to cut, the specialty tapered router bit used cost about $50. Nothing cheap in the world of CNC, but once you are on the right track, you can turn something thats in your mind into something you can hold in your hands, and possibly sell.
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2012, 07:29:24 AM »
Wow Xray.

Really good work on all 3.  Very talented.  Impressive!
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2012, 07:33:10 AM »
Very cool! I really want one! :D Love to see a TurboDuo and later Duo logo if you find yourself bored and want to make more. :D

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2012, 07:35:42 AM »
Man, I'm just blown away by how awesome these look... 

If you do start to progress into producing/selling these please consider one already sold!
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