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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2012, 10:09:13 PM »
looks amazing ! How do we order one ?

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #92 on: September 04, 2012, 03:19:12 PM »


Is it just me or is the logo not centered in the square?  The "T" in Turbo looks further away from the border than the "O" in Turbo.  Or is that how the logo actually looks?  Damnit... *Fifty heads off to look at his TG paraphernalia for a comparison*.

[EDIT] If you look at the "X" in Grafx it's really in a corner.


I am not doing the square box line around the logo anymore, they are more problems than they are worth. I went into that in a little detail somewhere in this thread.
These are demos/prototypes, any new ones I cut will not have this line.
Things are getting a little confusing, I apologize. These designs have been through numerous and rapid revisions, and I can't claim 100% perfection in all cases - Though thats exactly what I strive for. This little project came out of the blue and morphed into more than I thought it would, and I appreciate the responses and interest.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #93 on: September 04, 2012, 07:47:57 PM »
TG 3D ?
Been playing around with the design of this one ,,, Actually close to being ready to cut, but not sure if there is a point.
Would be a 4-5 hour cut, so would not be feasible to offer them for a "decent" price. I'm thinking this would look soooo sweet cut out of a nice chunk of walnut, or even cedar.

I think what I'll do, if this actually ever advances to the cutting stage, is just cut it out of cheap MDF, which actually holds detail very well ,,, I have these special and expensive paints that  realistically simulate old rusted iron, or aged copper. That would look great, I'll post back if I ever do it.


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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #94 on: September 05, 2012, 02:46:27 AM »
Wow, that looks nice!  I hope3 that you do go ahead and try to make one of these.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #95 on: September 05, 2012, 08:12:26 AM »
Do it!  Cherry wood would be killer. What kind of price are we talking?  $100?
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #96 on: September 05, 2012, 09:05:18 AM »
Let me play with it a bit, for any potential sales yeah I'd almost have to keep it under $100.
I should be able to knock the machining time about in half by sacrificing a little detail and/or using a larger bit ,, But I'm not a big fan of compromises, so we'll see how it goes.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #97 on: September 05, 2012, 10:04:00 AM »
I am going to make one myself for like 30-50$$

Step 1: blow the logo up at Kinkos, make a stencil
Step 2: Paint it onto a sheet of acrylic or something with dayglo paint
step 3: UV keychains

Or you could just use bright ass LED keychains instead.  You can get those things like, 3 for 2$.


Last time I checked, some plexiglass wasn't that expensive, and dayglo paint is dirt cheap.
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #98 on: September 05, 2012, 10:18:41 AM »
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Last time I checked, some plexiglass wasn't that expensive

Thin plexi isn't. He's not using that 1/8" stuff, though.

Would be neat to see one with the black-light leds and dayglo colors, though....

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #99 on: September 05, 2012, 12:30:00 PM »
I am going to make one myself for like 30-50$$

Step 1: blow the logo up at Kinkos, make a stencil
Step 2: Paint it onto a sheet of acrylic or something with dayglo paint
step 3: UV keychains

Or you could just use bright ass LED keychains instead.  You can get those things like, 3 for 2$.


Last time I checked, some plexiglass wasn't that expensive, and dayglo paint is dirt cheap.


Nothing wrong with stencils, I have been making them since I was a kid, and still do.
I think you are not quite grasping the concept of edge lit signs though. It is the engraved etching which catches the light when the edge is lit, and makes it appear as though the letters are lit. Simply stenciling a pattern to the back won't light a thing, though it may look cool in its own right. It must be etched for the design to be edge lit.
Keep in mind, it would be almost impossible to simply spray paint on a design without having the paint bleed through the edges of the stencil, looking like shit. Also, if you do try this ,,, [And you could likely do it on your PC without having to go to kinkos, especially the way they freak out over any copyrighted logos], make sure to flip the image horizontally, that way it will look right when you look at it from the front.

You'll need something with far more power than a keychain gadget to light these up, unless your design is keychain size [some guys actually do make them that small].

As far as pricing, I'm not saying this shit it worth its weight in gold. It is surprisingly expensive to anyone who has not priced it out.
As stated, 1/2 is not easily available, you might be able to special order it, but chain home improvement stores stock nothing thicker than 1/4 ,,, And that shit is fairly expensive itself.
Here is one of the first results that turned up in a google search of "1/2 plexiglass"
http://www.jmkdisplays.com/sheet.html

I imagine their prices are competitive, else they wouldn't be in business.
1 square foot of 1/8 plexi is $3 - 1 square foot of 1/2 is $13 ... And thats not including the cutting charge, or shipping.

Here is another place
http://setshop.com/photo-backgrounds/plexiglas    $375 for a 4x8 ft sheet of 1/2 plexi, I'm guessing shipping on something this size and weight would be well over $100, probably more like $200.
1 square foot - I couldn't even make 2 8x6's with a chunk that size, just 1. And keep in mind, when the final product is 8x6, the actual piece I use is more like 9x7. You have to allow yourself some slack on all sides when you make any cut, so the blank must be oversized.
With most wood, I can get away with 1/2 oversize on all sides, but thats cutting it very close. For these, I leave an extra inch or more on the height and on the width, to make sure I don't f*ck up. Positioning on CNC is itself somewhat of an artform, and takes a while to get good at.
I have botched quite a few pieces and wrecked quite a few expensive router bits trying to conserve material, cutting it too close and running over a hold down screw. Thats just another reason why any old Joe could not do this on the first day, or week even - And thats one reason why people pay other people to do stuff like this.

I have the equipment, material and expertise to crank out a professional looking product at a reasonable price - You don't.
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #100 on: September 05, 2012, 12:34:16 PM »
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #101 on: September 05, 2012, 01:13:54 PM »
SNIP

I have the equipment, material and expertise to crank out a professional looking product at a reasonable price - You don't.


Hey man, I really like your signs and plan on ordering one after payday. Having said that, you might want to tone down this last part. I don't know if Ark has the ability to crank out a similar sign or not, but he most certainly has made professional looking products before—he's one of maybe a handful of people to actually release a homebrew game for the TG and I assure you it's quite professional. :)

Anyway, like I said, not a knock on you or your work. What you've done is truly amazing and I can't wait to have one! :)

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #102 on: September 05, 2012, 02:08:48 PM »
SNIP

I have the equipment, material and expertise to crank out a professional looking product at a reasonable price - You don't.


Hey man, I really like your signs and plan on ordering one after payday. Having said that, you might want to tone down this last part. I don't know if Ark has the ability to crank out a similar sign or not, but he most certainly has made professional looking products before—he's one of maybe a handful of people to actually release a homebrew game for the TG and I assure you it's quite professional. :)

Anyway, like I said, not a knock on you or your work. What you've done is truly amazing and I can't wait to have one! :)

You are right, wasn't meaning to toot my own horn, or demean the creative abilities of others.
I am talking about acrylic edge lit in particular though, and as far as that goes, from what he said its easy to tell that he doesn't have the equipment, material or expertise to crank out a professional looking product at a reasonable price .. Else he wouldn't have been talking about simply spray painting a dayglo stencil on a piece of plexiglass.
When you are talking with someone who has experience in a field that you are knowledgeable in, its easy to tell - But thats not to say I'm the #1 go to guy in the USA for edge lit signs, I'm still learning, and enjoying it.
I'm always interested to hear what others are into, I admire anything creative.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #103 on: September 05, 2012, 02:25:52 PM »
Having done CNC machining myself.  I understand the effort and expense that goes into it.  Experienced CNC operators are well paid for a reason.  Its high precision work that has very high costs when failures occur.  What xray is making here is fantastic IMO.  A neat unique piece of retro decor :D
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #104 on: September 05, 2012, 03:22:44 PM »
Thanks for offering these to the community for an affordable price!  Even though I've ordered a couple, I still hope I win that raffle. :P