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Xray

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #60 on: August 29, 2012, 06:37:51 PM »
Thanks for the interest esteban, I'll send a pm to discuss details.

Don't want anyone to think I consider these scrap, they are legit acrylic turbo works of art.
The first couple have some rough edges, which I'll clean up a bit [As I said before, flame polishing works great]. The main detraction of the early pieces was that I didn't leave quite enough clear space to accommodate a holder ,,, But some thinking and tinkering should solve that problem.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2012, 04:48:08 PM »
I had a thought, I'd go nuts for ones that have Bonk & King Drool.  My first thought was one with Bonk(in orange) & another with Drool(in green), but then thought, maybe it'd be better to just have one with both in it, though I don't know what color I would choose...unless there was a decent way to have them lit up orange & green?  I did some Googling, & didn't find any particular Bonk & Drool that I'd want, but I know I'd want the Japanese version of them, not the American style.  I'm sure if someone could find them online somewhere, there's probably something perfect in one of those old PC Genjin comics.  Ofcoarse, I suppose if one with both of them each in a different color wouldn't work, I'd probably just go ahead & have 1 of each made.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2012, 05:30:29 PM »
Doesn't appear to be an easy way to light multiple colors ,,, I am going to try painting a TG logo with the stock orange/yellow, and see how that looks lit up.
Also am going to try a Bonk, I'll post back with the results. The preview doesn't look at that good to me, but preview is really only a rough idea, you never know if its a dud or a bomb until its cut and lit up.

PCE & console logos are spoken for, never heard back form esteban, so all other demos posted in this thread are available rock bottom $25 shipped USA.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2012, 05:41:51 PM »
Give esteban a couple days.  He always gets back eventually.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2012, 06:42:39 PM »
A few of the comics can be found here, but none of them have quite what I'd be looking for.
http://bonkzonk.com/comics.ktn

Edit-I did find a Drool that I like, though, I recall there being one where he's pointing at Bonk, I wish I could find that one, I think it was used in an old Die Hard ad.  I'll try some more searching, but for now, here's a whole bunch o' Bonks n stuff:
http://bonkzonk.com/images/magazine/GPCE-1992-Calendar.jpg

I found the one with Drool pointing!!  It's on Esteban's site, though, only half of it is viewable & I imagine Bonk on the left & Drool on the right, so he'd have to be flipped to be pointing at Bonk http://archives.tg-16.com/

AHA, here's the full Drool, now to find the right Bonk.  I feel like I'd want one that has Bonk doing that fast motion feet thing where his little feet are detached, but maybe that's not doable? http://archives.tg-16.com/archive-four/TF-02-25.jpg

Ah, I have a better idea, I want the cover art to Shadow of the Beast! :D  Kidding!

Ok, I think of everything I've found, I like the big Bonk on the front cover of PC Genjin 3 best http://www.pcengine.co.uk/Images-Covers/COVER-PC_Kid3.jpg
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #65 on: August 31, 2012, 06:24:51 AM »
This is a preview of the Bonk I'm doing ,,, Really not an easy subject to do.
Actual figures/people tend to be better 3d, and graphics 2d.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2012, 07:24:47 AM »
Thanks for being patient, Xray. PM sent earlier today.

Give esteban a couple days.  He always gets back eventually.


Thanks .

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2012, 01:25:08 PM »
Looks awesome so far, though I vastly prefer the big Bonk on this:
http://www.pcengine.co.uk/Images-Covers/COVER-PC_Kid3.jpg

And the Drool on this, but flipped so he's facing left:
http://archives.tg-16.com/archive-four/TF-02-25.jpg

That is, if any of it is possible?

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2012, 04:11:42 PM »
Here is the franchise player, Bonk, in all his edge lit glory.
Came out decent, you SAF can tell who he is, anyhow !

As I said before, I'm done with prototypes and demos, been burning through too much time & plexi with nothing to show for it ... So I intended to offer up this one as a production example.
It has one obvious flaw however ,,, You can see it better in the blue pic, but towards the top of his head there is a razor thin scratch running the width of the piece, and for that reason, I'll offer it $25 shipped, same as the rest here.
[It is literally razor thin, I made the line with a razor by a miscalculation]. This one by far takes the longest to cut, due to Bonks big heads, so they'll go for twice that much on the sales thread.





ParanoiaDragon, neither of those examples would be suitable to turn into a vector drawing, which I need to do to go on to creating machining files.
[Didn't even see Bonk in the 2nd link]

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2012, 05:10:22 PM »
Thanks for being patient, Xray. PM sent earlier today.

Give esteban a couple days.  He always gets back eventually.


Thanks .




No prob brother, shit happens, I know that as well any anyone else.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2012, 06:25:20 PM »
Dang, stinks that the Jp Bonk can't be done.  BITD I prefered the Bonk's Revenge style Bonk(as opposed to Bonk 1 with the glare on his head, & the blue eyes), but over the years, I came to love the Jp Bonk.  Still, if someone else doesn't nab that one, I may give in.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2012, 06:33:46 PM »
Dang, stinks that the Jp Bonk can't be done.  BITD I prefered the Bonk's Revenge style Bonk(as opposed to Bonk 1 with the glare on his head, & the blue eyes), but over the years, I came to love the Jp Bonk.  Still, if someone else doesn't nab that one, I may give in.

Not that it can't be done ,,, I could probably do it "by hand", and it would take many hours to design, just wouldn't be worth my time.
If I was commissioned to do it, as I often am for various business projects, then it would be worth my time - And thats usually for 3D projects, its pretty rare spending a whole lot of time on 2D, though it does happen, and there are complex 2D works.
[I don't even want to think about Bonk 3D - No ones buying these so far, for sure no one would pay what it would be worth my while to do 3D].

I basically look for simple black & white graphics/images, which can be made into vectored models fairly easily.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #72 on: September 01, 2012, 01:37:16 AM »
Just curious, what cnc software are you using?  Both design and cnc programming.  I used to do plastic injection moldmaking and I primarily did the cnc work.  Its been five years since I did that line of work but I remember fabricating small car parts and such for friends.  Most didnt realize what all was involved with cnc machining.  They though you just hit a button and blamo there it was. :)
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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #73 on: September 01, 2012, 07:11:03 AM »
For 3D design I use a number of apps, Solidworks, Autodesk, Aspire, also use CorelDraw to create/modify alot of things to later export to one of those programs for further work. All very expensive programs with a high learning curve. I thought I was getting raped spending $4,000 on a software program until I saw others spending twice and 3 times as much .. I thought Aspire was a bargain, just under $2,000. You simply have to have these programs if you want to advance, so you gotta bite the bullet and pony up.
For basic 2D, I use Cut2D. Both Cut2D & Aspire have the ability to not only design, but also generate the toolpath gcode of the actual cut files [.tap]
The program I use that opens these generated .tap files and actually runs the machine is WinCNC.
All of these I used a copied graphic, traced vectors by hand in Aspire, then made toolpaths in Cut2D with the resulting .dfx file. Really could do it all with just Aspire, but this stuff is relatively simple, and I like the simplicity that the Cut2D interface allows. Not a whole lot of options, because you don't need alot of options.

Whether you are talking about a router [my case], a laser, mill machine, plasma cutter ect, once you learn the basics of CNC, you can apply it to all of them, though of course each one has its own particular designing/setup routines.

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Re: Home Brew TG 16 Edge lit sign
« Reply #74 on: September 01, 2012, 07:35:37 AM »
We used SolidWorks and TopSolid for most of the design work.  For CNC machining we used a program called Cimatron.  I think the company that made it was trying to make an all in one software solution for making injection molds.  While Cimatron had some good 3d modeling abilities, it wasn't as versatile or advanced as TopSolid was for our applications.  Cimatron was excellent at generating tool paths for cutting 3D shapes though.  The 3d modeling abilities of Cimatron helped when I had to make electrodes for EDM processes.  It wasnt always as simple as just lifting the surfaces you wanted to cut.  I often had to tweak the shape etc of the electrode I was wanting to cut in order to make sure A: it was machinable, B: it didnt burn something it wasnt supposed to.

Hardest cut I ever had to do was a 3D undercut on a mold using a 45 degree cutting head mounted in the CNC machine.  I had to generate the tool paths as if I was cutting vertically, and then translate the whole thing 45 degrees.  Since it was a large expensive mold, it was a very nerve-racking cut.  I think I spent two full days on it.  I even mounted a piece of aluminum to the top of the mold and did a test cut on it before cutting the actual mold cavity.

What CNC machine are you using, and what sort of cutters?  (almost looks like you used some sort of a ball tip cutter in a spiral path)  We had several older 40" Fadal VMCs and three newer OKKs  (though again, this was 5+ years ago now)

Interesting work, but the long hours, and high stress nature of it made me leave.  Nothing worse than working a 100+ hour week, and having something go wrong.  That exact mold that I did that crazy undercut on was having trouble fitting together...  I worked from 5am on a Saturday til 10am on Monday (left twice for a shower) and still couldn't get it fully closed... boss came in Monday morning and got mad at me because it wasn't done.  I left, came back the next day and put in my notice.  The money was good, but no money is worth that crap.
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