I finally own a PC-Engine....

[grimm]

Not so easy for me to do, and its hard finding apartments in Sweden. They are even on a craze to convert apartments you rent, to apartments you actually have to buy and own. So its difficult to find something you can afford as single and unemployed.. Young people (age 19-25) often still live at home, because they cant find work, and can not afford their own place. They are often refused social wellfare because "your parents can pay for you", if they still live at home. Despite the fact you arnt legally obligated to support your kids after age 18 (or 19 if they are still in our equivalent to college). Cheap housing is becoming a real problem.

Work is hard to find all over sweden, i live in a medium size town and the situation isnt better in the large towns. I would also have to leave the small social network i do have, which is what keeps me going. Moving is not a realistic option for me, im not just being difficult or lazy.

[Drakon]

Hmm.  Is owning an apartment cheaper in the long run than renting it?

[grimm]

too many variables to give a conclusive answer.. if you take two apartments in the same location, same size and same demand for them, initially you will have to buy one of them. If you arnt rich, which most arent, you need a loan from the bank. so thats a montly payment aside from the monthly fee for the apartment itelf (unless you own the whole building which you generally dont). If you only rent it, you dont have a payment to the bank, but your rent is generally significantly higher.

when you rent, if your fridge or stove or shower etc breaks, that stuff will be repaired or replaced for you at no real cost. if you own, you pay all that yourself. its pretty logical really.

So you cant really say if its cheaper in the long run. If you dont need a loan, it MIGHT be, barring things breaking on you. what i can say is buying is not an option for many people since apartments are going up in price everywhere, and the building companies dont really build new places for working class people. Its all very expensive flats for those who can afford them. usually people moving from a house etc.

Its a big concern, especially for people less financially secure, and young adults. A concern being ignored by politicians and housing companies.

[Drakon]

Yeah affordable housing seems to be a problem unless you're in the middle of nowhere where there's no work.

[Nando]

Its a big concern, especially for people less financially secure, and young adults. A concern being ignored by politicians and housing companies.

Very much what is happening here in some states. We see young adults with degrees living with their parents, up to their neck in student loan debt.  Some others have started rooming together, so you may have a young couple owning a house and renting out a room to a friend(s) We are also seeing a decline in birth rates in some areas.

So pardon the ignorance but what areas of Swedens' economy are seeing any job growth?

Now on the apartment fee, are those like Home Owners association fees, on top of a mortgage? HOA's here is money given to the "building" for projects and repairs that benefit the whole building/set of condos.

[grimm]

I guess you could say home owners association fees yeah. its not rent but a monthly fee, to cover exactly what you just mentioned, etc. People still tend to call it "rent" though, i guess it makes it easier for people or something.. I try to say "monthly fee" but i slip sometimes too. For me, i dont have a loan/mortgage, since i used money from my dad's life insurance to get this place back in 97. So in a way, i was "lucky" to have that money.

Im not sure where job growth exist in sweden either.. To me it seems more like the people who already have jobs, can change jobs, but those who are unemployed, are often looking in vain.

[Drakon]

Start at the bottom of the working food chain and work your way up?  I've been working full time since I was 19, pretty easy for me to find work now.

[grimm]

Im working class, im at the bottom by default, and have no aspirations to "climb the ladder". I just want to work and earn a living. It is not easy to find work here.

[Drakon]

Im working class, im at the bottom by default, and have no aspirations to "climb the ladder". I just want to work and earn a living. It is not easy to find work here.

There's gotta be somewhere in the world where it's easy to find work.  Just gotta find that place and get there I suppose.

[grimm]

Good luck with that.

[RegalSin]

get married, and that is the only way I could think about climbing the corporate ladder, of life. Find somebody you actually care about. An uncle of mine, from the hippie days got married to his wife, and he is a stay at home dad.

New Jersey is a great place to find work. This guy, whom name I am not fond of, got work in a food factory, and before walking dogs for a living. I am talking about no college experience at all. Also in New York City, many offered are at a constant rate. However most works, needs college experience, just not to be fired. Private work is the only thing that is hard to find in the Gigalopolis. Also it is America, which means, you can not be discriminated on your disabilities. For their are associations for that.

However I wouldn't jump the gun, unless you really love Sweeden. I hate to somebody being stranded in America, without money. Speaking of being stranded,
people attempt to perform or even go on trains, making announcements. One musician hangs out where the wall street people are, and plays that tune from the ending of Evangelion all day long. Dressed up and everything. Another guy sings reggae songs with his guitar on the train, "One love, etc and gets money", another older musician has his sax, on the Brooklyn Bridge. The tourist eats these things up.

Maybe there is an American company in Sweden, that requires you attributes, and will uphold these things. You see when people look for work, not being in the pool, of three months ( or was it three years ) of the workforce, they consider us to be not real people.

On the plus side, at least you have a PC Engine now.

But it sucks not being in Japan. The one reason why I love the PCE is how the ability to beat or even match the Saturn. The next is all the love poured into this system.
It got so much love inside of it, unlike other game systems. Also the games egnite,
the passion of what a true game system should be like. The opposite end of the PCE is the Amiga. The Amiga like the Jaguar, at one point had love, but sooner or later, got no doki doki, at all. The squid from Parodious says it all.

[Nando]

Hope you can tap into the local community and create something there, best of luck grimm and when you feel down and out fire up the PCE! 

Best of luck man!

[Drakon]

Yeah marriage works as long as you find the right person.  I had some gfs who only wanted to use me for free stuff.  One of my ex gfs is now a professional mooch with her current bf and she does nothing all day while he goes to work.  Her current bf is a "spend thrift" so between the two of them there's basically zero savings, and they're not getting any younger.  The girl I'm with now is totally different and ever since we started dating life has consistently gotten better and better for both of us even financially.  It's nice having someone you can fall back on and always get help from when you're out of work.  I carried and completely helped my gf for 6 months right after we started dating when she lost her job, and that help I gave came back in a huge way, with interest.  The more people you have working with you the easier life becomes.  Earn enough trust from the right people and then you'll be in the clear.

[grimm]

RegalSin, if you are talking to me, im a swede living in sweden. And here you do get discriminated depending on what your disabilities are regardless of associations. Mine are discriminated against in Phase 3 as i described earlier, most people are in phase 3. its a dumping ground basically.

As for marriage, I dont even believe in marriage, I dont even want to live with a girlfriend. Nor do i wanna smooch off someone elses income when it is society's (not individual friends or family) role to show solidarity and take care of its citizens in need. I just want a job, nothing more.

[RegalSin]

The reason why people have kids, is to have somebody to take care of them, when they get old. Not to just be shoved, inside an elderly persons home, where they can get away with doing just about anything to a person. I am just saying, two people making an income is better then one stand alone.