Dynastic Hero & Tenchi Muyo

[ParanoiaDragon]

Has anyone ever noticed that a few of the songs from Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki sound REALLY similar to songs from Dynastic Hero?  It's not just the sound set, but, maybe it's just me, but it seems like the composition style is similar as well.  I just checked the credits for Dynastic Hero, & it just says Syn Sound Design, which is headed up by Nick Wood(or he's atleast part of the team), & I recall someone(Tatsujin?) saying he did both Dynastic Hero & Gate of Thunder.  For Tenchi Muyro Ryo-Ohki, the name I see responsible is Akifumi Tada.  Unfortunately, the only game he's specifically listed under is Bomberman 64.  Also, for the opening theme, I find a different composer, Seikou NAGAOKA.   I found his website, but I don't read japanse.  There's a list here of all he's done for anime, movies, & other: http://www.tonal.tv/disc/yellow/index.html


This one totally reminds me of the opening to Dynastic Hero!

And here's that opening(the US song), for reference, heh, even one guy says it's a ripoff of Tenchi

Makes me think a bit of maybe the final castle?

This one makes me think of a castle/town theme for Dynastic Hero, also it has those lil' "spring" noises found in several Dynastic Hero songs

This one, you have to play it a lil bit, about 45 seconds in, reminds me of maybe one of the dungeon tracks

About half way thru, it starts reminding me of the track for the options screen

This one reminds me of a slower version of one of the boss themes

This one also gives me a wee hint of a Dynastic Hero boss theme






Another one of those boss theme types

[esteban]

I can't wait to compare these songs later. Perhaps Syn Sound Design is merely a cover band  .

[RegalSin]

Tenchi and Dynastic Hero have the same feeling.

Nature
Forest sprits
Ancient time

Tenchi Muyo usually consults the forces of nature, in a present day world ( Modern post ww Japan ), but at the same time has many mythologies that rotates around Japanese religions, ( especially religion ) and methods. Like the money god/monkey ( Mantos ), or
the cell phone spirit.

If you watch Tenchi Muyo series, you will usually see something that has to with spiritual beings, that revolves around nature. The same exact thing could be said for Dynasty. Even the outfits, that is worn by the people are similar.

It is like in Pokemon GS with the forest shrine, or windaria, or luputa: castle in the sky, Lunar, or even Secret of Blue Water. All of these are natured theme series, and carries the same sounds. It could also be in reference to Shrine maidens, or monks.

That should pour some logic on your table. Bomberman N64 had many natural themes, and they hired that composer, to forfill the sounds for the themes of those levels. Back when 3d was normal, to complement the world, they would have music, that fits in with the environment.

The feeling of 3d, was slow and you had to take it in. It is direct complement to Bomberman Hero, which attempted to bring back the original Bomberman world, rather then a 3d idealized world. Bomberman N64 was special release because it was the first real 3d bomberman, with real rotating space. So they had to pull out all the strings. N642 was trying to create something similar, while relating to the Bomberman standard. This way the GBC RPG games would have made more sense.

Bomberman N64 1+2 are basically the same as the GB and GBA RPG counterparts. If GBC was probably going to be the third installment but was turned into a GBC game instead. That is what I am guessing.

Bomberman outlived his usefulness once they brought that BMMaxx
character, with his Pomey. They completely destroyed the universe
that bomberman was balanced on.

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Tenchi and Dynastic have the same music to follow that commercial,
traditional, society type feeling of nature. That slow talk, you hear in Dynastic, is that of a girls voices, being somewhat perverted/sexy/sicko ( you know that s-t-i-m-u-l-a-t-i-n-g phrase like, but motherly/naturely

[kazekirifx]

No. I never noticed that, and I knew the soundtracks for both pretty well back in the '90s. Are you sure you're not over analyzing a bit here?

Some of the kochikame OST is arranged by Ryo Yonemitsu, who did all the PCE Ys and Legend of Heroes games. There are some pieces in there that sound EXACTLY like Ys IV. Almost considered buying some of the OST's.

[RegalSin]

Y's four is not up for discussion, because it is the end of Y's. The soundscape is that of, Metroid Prime, but is for an ending, or mature feeling, You have to understand that fiction, that is built up over, time, and is especially respected, it becomes more and more sophisticated.
That is why Bomberman N64 series had great music, while Bomberman Hero, had "cewwllll" sounding music, for a much younger audience. They were trying to go backwards.

The feelings are probably attached to those moments, for various usage. When I say feeling, I mean that special eye. Like how we felt
small, when we went to Junior Highschool, but we felt big being graduates and seniors. Our eyes start to play tricks on us, and we are unable to remember those feelings, associated, with that present time.

Y's 1, was the beginning. Y's 2 was the ending. 3-was another story, and 4 was the final, but by the time they reached four, it was extremly commercialized ( but Y's is the alpha Omega of all commercial J-rpgs, not considering that game ) and all of Falcom games have a right to sound, the same. In fact that could be another paradox, with Falcom generating the same exact series, but labeling them different names. However they all have different feelings, and emotions attached to them.

[SignOfZeta]

I haven't played Dynastic Hero in ages, but I know the Tenchi Muyo music really well, the original OVA series at least.

Right now I can't make a comparison though because that f*cking Dynastic Hero video you linked simply will not play for me for whatever reason.

EDIT: Just found a video of the DH intro and...yeah, its a total ripoff of the Tenchi incidental music. I don't know about any of the other tunes though since I'm not familiar with DH.

For the record, the DH song I listened to was this one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGsTpQ-NV80

[ParanoiaDragon]

No. I never noticed that, and I knew the soundtracks for both pretty well back in the '90s. Are you sure you're not over analyzing a bit here?

Some of the kochikame OST is arranged by Ryo Yonemitsu, who did all the PCE Ys and Legend of Heroes games. There are some pieces in there that sound EXACTLY like Ys IV. Almost considered buying some of the OST's.

I probably am.  I've been watching thru it lately & this all kind of hit me with certain songs. I'll have to check out Kochira. I hadn't heard about it till now.

[kazekirifx]

Here we go. Some very Ys-y sounding BGM from the anime "kochikame" (full title "kochira katsushikaku kameari kouenmae hashutsujo") arranged by PCE Ys arranger Ryo Yonemitsu. You'll think you're listening to Ys music.

Listen to samples of tracks 3 and 8. I'm guessing track 1 was also arranged by Yonemitsu, and maybe some others, but 3 and 8 are the most obvious.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%81%93%E3%81%A1%E3%82%89%E8%91%9B%E9%A3%BE%E5%8C%BA%E4%BA%80%E6%9C%89%E5%85%AC%E5%9C%92%E5%89%8D%E6%B4%BE%E5%87%BA%E6%89%80-%E9%9F%B3%E6%A5%BD%E9%9B%86-%E3%80%94ANIMEX1200%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%82%9B-163%E3%80%95-TV%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9/dp/B000MV807M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1346837723&sr=8-3

[RegalSin]

So far, what I got from kochikame, is that he is a law abiding, pro-society citizen, who works in an bicycle police officer, type life. Almost like a public safety type thing. Or neighborhood officer.

In comparison, to Y's Adol is this traveling, young swordsman looking for adventure. Comes upon the land of Y's, and the whole entire neighborhood ( island ) knows his name . I could imagine an older, retired Adol, going on adventures, and patroling the grounds, while raising his family. However that is about it. Next thing you know they are going to bring Dark fact out of retirement, or stupid revenge nonsense.

Adol and kochikame is both about police justice with, jolly good times.
That is how I could compare and contrast

[kazekirifx]

Uhh. Yeah. You're right. Never noticed that. So much in common...