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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2006, 11:23:56 AM »
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I wish I knew all these Japanese video game people as well as you did, Kami :D .
Seriously. In a slightly related tangent: The folks in Europe / UK definitely have an advantage over us when it comes to certain consoles / computer platforms (i.e. MSX), because they had active markets and communities for imported systems and some magazines that supported the import computing / gaming.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of a single magazine that supported Japanese computing here in the States...

Am I exaggerating things, Kami? It's not like I experienced the European scene first-hand, I'm basing my views off of stuff I've read...

Back on topic: was a FM-Towns / Marty version of Snatcher ever made? That would have been something...
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« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2006, 11:32:29 AM »
Yeah really, Europe missed out on a lot of cool console stuff back in the day, but they more than made up for it with all the kickass computer stuff they had.  I would have killed for an Amiga when I was a kid!

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« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2006, 11:43:46 AM »
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Back on topic: was a FM-Towns / Marty version of Snatcher ever made? That would have been something...


Nope, no such thing exist. I wish...

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Yeah really, Europe missed out on a lot of cool console stuff back in the day, but they more than made up for it with all the kickass computer stuff they had. I would have killed for an Amiga when I was a kid!


The Amiga was sweet machine and it had the best version of Maniac Manison. Definitely kicked the crap out of my C64.

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« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2006, 03:48:43 PM »
Europe is awesome. My dream would be to live on a emerald green cliff in Ireland (the promised land) with the cold waves crashing against it, as I sit back listening to song tracks from the Quadrophenia album while playing a great classic video game at dawn. Talk about fine living.
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2006, 06:15:23 PM »
Haha that does sound f*ckin rad, sign me up nigga!

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« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2006, 08:17:02 PM »
Okay I couldn't resist anymore. I decided yesterday (or the day before) to download PCE Snatcher, only under one condition: to listen to the various CD tracks. But I just couldn't resists, I loaded it up in Daemon Tools and then fired it on Magic Engine and played it. I was pretty impressed with it, basically for the same reasons you guys gave.

One thing that made me happy was that there were shooting scenes. You see, I had this whole "Act 3 system" thing greatly confused. I always thought this referred TO those shooting scenes in the Sega CD one, since on that WebTV site it said the Act 3 system on PCE was more of a sit and watch thing while the Sega CD one gave you more to do, and this line greatly confused me years ago into thinking that the shooting scenes originally started in the Sega CD one, and not the PCE. It's insane, I kept thinking "Act 3" was some cheesy name for the gun system, since it used a 3x3 grid, haha. Now I understand that this refers to the ACTUL  Act PART 3 in the game, where as Black_Tiger said you watch cinemas in the PCE one and then in the Sega CD one you have to do some guessing and what not (right?).

On the graphic subject, I think I noticed some things. First of all, we know that the Sega CD one got that nice extra opening with Gillian talking to that chick before they leave, which was a nice addition to add for gamers. Then another obvious difference is that there is one clear building in Neo Tokyo that says "NEC", while the Sega CD one says "SEGA" I think (can't remember if it's Sega, I know there are screenshots for it somewhere). I also caught a couple different message face shots of Gillian in the PCE one which I don't remember in the Sega CD, like when you find out Little John has a bomb in him. And also to comment on the message face art, it seems the PCE one adds more frames of animation for the mouth movement or gestures, I just don't remember it looking that smooth when I played it on Sega CD before, but I could surely be wrong. And also some of the screens are drawn a little different of course. It seems the PCE version has more anime-ish art in a small way.

It's not so bad playing PCE Snatcher in Japanese, I was able to understand it since I beat the Sega CD one twice before and it only takes a little bit to learn the options, plus all the screens, animation, faces gives you a lot of action to put everything together. I played all the way up until you go to that one chick's house (I think her name is Katrina, but I don't remember) and she asks you a question, I believe for her age or her dad's age, but I don't know it. I guess I would have to use the computer in the game and look up the characters to find out. Lucky for me I understand some hiragana and katakana, so it's easier for me to remember the characters as it is for others. My very small Japanese language knowledge surprisingly helps me understand this game too :D .

Oh and the voices in the PCE version are pretty dead on, I love them. However I don't like Metal Gear's voice so much, though I didn't think the Sega CD version had the appropriate voice actor either. I guess the PCE voice is better since it does fit a mini Metal Gear robot more, but it's hard to say what would fit Metal Gear. Great PSG and CD sound/music by the way, overall I enjoy it more than the Sega CD version, though there are still a couple chip tunes I like more on the Sega CD one.

I would have to play through the PCE one entirely to say which one I think is better, just so I can check out the Act 3 in the PCE one and stuff. I'd probably say that the PCE version is better overall, but it's worth playing the Sega CD version a lot more if you don't understand Japanese.
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« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2006, 01:23:39 AM »
Isn't the Sega CD Snatcher the only English version?  Was there even a Japanese Mega CD version?  I don't believe Japan got that one.  

I played the PCE version a little bit a while back.  I wasn't really into those types of games back then, but I seem to be craving them after playing Phoenix Wright on DS (another game I strongly recommend).  

You might want to check out Dead of the Brain I II.  It's supposedly like Snatcher (graphic adventure) but then again it's all in Japanese.  It's also pricey... hmm... maybe not a good recommendation after all... :?

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« Reply #37 on: February 03, 2006, 09:19:28 AM »
I love digital comic games, I really wish more of them were in English. The Sega CD Snatcher is the only Snatcher game that was released outside of Japan and the Sega CD version didn't even have a Japanese release. Pretty interesting, eh? I guess Japan didn't really need it though since they were focused a lot more on PCE CD anyways, so at least we scored for once.

I saw screenshots and videos for Dead of the Brain I & II remakes for PCE, it looked awesome. There are some other digital comics I would love to play, like 3x3 Eyes which you showed us the excellent opening cinemas for with SCD and ACD format :D .
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« Reply #38 on: February 03, 2006, 01:34:21 PM »
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Cobra on the PC Engine was blessed to be voiced by drama actor Yasuo Yamada, who was picked up personally by Terasawa. Once you've heard Yamada, you can't even watch the series (in Japanese) anymore.


The late Yasuo Yamada was also the voice of Lupin the 3rd! He's amazing!

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« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2006, 06:32:59 PM »
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Europe is awesome. My dream would be to live on a emerald green cliff in Ireland (the promised land) with the cold waves crashing against it, as I sit back listening to song tracks from the Quadrophenia album while playing a great classic video game at dawn. Talk about fine living.

To bad i've herd NOE treats there fans like shit :P

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« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2006, 08:05:13 PM »
:lol:

I found the porno tape in the PCE Snatcher at the Joy Division shop (heh), it was pretty funny and not quite what I expected. I made a save state before it happened, so I might try recording it later and upload it for everyone to see. You might know this already, but it doesn't actually show the video, but you do hear some soft sounds of it and it's funny because Gillian's voice is softer and he is drooling (some really nice facial expressions Gillian makes here, I don't think they are shown in other versions) and Metal Gear goes nuts and his/her/it's face box starts getting near Gillian as if he's trying to make him stop and then it starts bouncing all over the place.

Also when you go down the the plaza where you meet Napolean, you get to learn a few different numbers in that scene. Metal Gear tells you one of them when he talks to you there and if you call it, it asks you sets of questions each time you call about Snacther. The first set of questions I believe were: What year was Snatcher First Made? What was Snatcher first made for? How many discs does the PC88 Snatcher have? How Many Discs does the PC Engine Snatcher have? I can't read Japanese very well at all, but I was able to understand these questions and I got them all correct :D . I took a screenshot of one of the questions, which asks What was Snatcher First Made On? and it lists PC88, MSX, x86000, FM Towns. Might upload it later for you guys.

I know there was a number in the Sega CD version that you got to call during this scene and it was for a sex line. Maybe the number in the PCE one I called was changed to a sex line in the Sega CD one. Anyone know anything about this? Also you call then number again and it asks you more new questions. If you go to your caller list, it will be labeled as what Q set of question you are on, like I am on Q2 right now. Pretty neat stuff.
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« Reply #41 on: February 05, 2006, 08:52:07 PM »
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:lol:

I found the porno tape in the PCE Snatcher at the Joy Division shop (heh), it was pretty funny and not quite what I expected. I made a save state before it happened, so I might try recording it later and upload it for everyone to see. You might know this already, but it doesn't actually show the video, but you do hear some soft sounds of it and it's funny because Gillian's voice is softer and he is drooling (some really nice facial expressions Gillian makes here, I don't think they are shown in other versions) and Metal Gear goes nuts and his/her/it's face box starts getting near Gillian as if he's trying to make him stop and then it starts bouncing all over the place.

Also when you go down the the plaza where you meet Napolean, you get to learn a few different numbers in that scene. Metal Gear tells you one of them when he talks to you there and if you call it, it asks you sets of questions each time you call about Snacther. The first set of questions I believe were: What year was Snatcher First Made? What was Snatcher first made for? How many discs does the PC88 Snatcher have? How Many Discs does the PC Engine Snatcher have? I can't read Japanese very well at all, but I was able to understand these questions and I got them all correct :D . I took a screenshot of one of the questions, which asks What was Snatcher First Made On? and it lists PC88, MSX, x86000, FM Towns. Might upload it later for you guys.

I know there was a number in the Sega CD version that you got to call during this scene and it was for a sex line. Maybe the number in the PCE one I called was changed to a sex line in the Sega CD one. Anyone know anything about this? Also you call then number again and it asks you more new questions. If you go to your caller list, it will be labeled as what Q set of question you are on, like I am on Q2 right now. Pretty neat stuff.

Sounds like your having fun on the pce version.

When you beat, Snatcher i realy suggest importing, Policenauts either for the (Saturn or PS1).

Hideo did it again with this great digital comic game also.

Still to bad, Hideo has stated no more digital comic games for him.

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« Reply #42 on: February 05, 2006, 09:03:09 PM »
Policenauts is a game I have been wanting to play for awhile. I was trying to download the original PC98 version before, but had no luck finding it. What's the status on the 3DO version, is that Japanese only? I think I read on that WebTV site that it came close to coming out here for 3DO in America, but it was cut, this might have been the Saturn version though. Anyone here play any version of the game? And if anyone has played the PC98, please tell me how it is and how it compares, I just love the old-skool style more.
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« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2006, 01:19:45 AM »
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Policenauts is a game I have been wanting to play for awhile. I was trying to download the original PC98 version before, but had no luck finding it. What's the status on the 3DO version, is that Japanese only? I think I read on that WebTV site that it came close to coming out here for 3DO in America, but it was cut, this might have been the Saturn version though. Anyone here play any version of the game? And if anyone has played the PC98, please tell me how it is and how it compares, I just love the old-skool style more.

It was the, Saturn version that all most got a U.S release.

Rumor has it translateing was finsh then ,Konami cancel it out of nowhere :cry:

Btw the 3DO version was import only also.

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« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2006, 02:19:23 AM »
It would seem to me that it'd be technically easier to make a digital comic game on the PCE instead of some action/platformer.  The big thing though is having a good story and characters.  

I used to hate the digital comic games but that was until I realized that these very games had the good stories rather than most RPGs.

WIth all that said, Policenauts for PCE would have been cool. :)