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Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« on: October 25, 2012, 03:05:28 AM »
How hard would it be to get a keyboard to work on the pce/turbo? I know the old Apple keyboards can hook up to the duo via the mini din (haven't tried it yet lol) and maybe a old pre windows 95 pc keyboard might work but if I'm going to move ahead with porting some dos games I know for a fact that there are a good portion of them that require you to use more than 8 buttons on six button controller especially old sim games. Hell it looked like there was a protype at some point:
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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 03:10:57 AM »
It's an interesting thought to be able to use a Model M keyboard with Ultima II on PCE.

Do it.
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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 03:26:23 AM »
I doubt a standard PC keyboard would work, but a keyboard is possible.  From Chris:

By the way, that "IBM PC Keyboard" was in fact a prototype PCE keyboard modified from the NEC PC-8801 computer.  The Tsushin Booster software actually has routines that detect button presses on this unreleased keyboard.

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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 03:28:45 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if an old serial keyboard with the big honkey DIN on it was about the same as a PC-88 keyboard.

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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 04:01:03 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if an old serial keyboard with the big honkey DIN on it was about the same as a PC-88 keyboard.

It wouldn't surprise me either, but you'll note that Chris said the 8801 keyboard was modified, which I assumed meant 'modified to output signal the PCE could understand'.
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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 04:01:22 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if an old serial keyboard with the big honkey DIN on it was about the same as a PC-88 keyboard.


Those were my thoughts, I probably should see if I have some old BIG DIN keyboards at work in our lovely boneyard. It wouldn't surprise me in the least bit if there were some still floating around from the old pacboards for our point of sale units...


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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2012, 06:56:15 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if an old serial keyboard with the big honkey DIN on it was about the same as a PC-88 keyboard.

It wouldn't surprise me either, but you'll note that Chris said the 8801 keyboard was modified, which I assumed meant 'modified to output signal the PCE could understand'.

Right, I misinterpreted what you said. 


Either keyboard (PC88 or sweet ass AT Model M) is probably easily modifiable to work on a PCE.
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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 07:33:42 PM »
personally i would love to have a keyboard and mouse for my duo. turn it into a 16-bit computer. have a slimmed down operating system that loaded off of cd. I know i'm pipe dreaming here, but i would use it.

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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 12:07:36 AM »
personally i would love to have a keyboard and mouse for my duo. turn it into a 16-bit computer. have a slimmed down operating system that loaded off of cd. I know i'm pipe dreaming here, but i would use it.

Really like that idea.
Maybe you could have the OS or so on HuCard instead and then load different software and games through CD? : ) Since you can remove a CD when the unit is running, but not a HuCard. That would be sweet.
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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 02:45:43 AM »
personally i would love to have a keyboard and mouse for my duo. turn it into a 16-bit computer. have a slimmed down operating system that loaded off of cd. I know i'm pipe dreaming here, but i would use it.

at that point, it would be a 8 bit computer, really.  lol.

If you want to do that, seriously, just get an Apple IIC.   It's got the same CPU in it basically. 

Sure the graphics look like wang, but its not that bad!
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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 11:10:10 PM »

DON'T HEAD DOWN THE WRONG PATH!

You should be modifying a LIGHT PEN to work on the PCE. That would infuse a spicy breath of life to the old DOS games you are porting.

You are welcome.
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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2012, 03:48:24 AM »

DON'T HEAD DOWN THE WRONG PATH!

You should be modifying a LIGHT PEN to work on the PCE. That would infuse a spicy breath of life to the old DOS games you are porting.

You are welcome.



You mean like the Illust Booster?
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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2012, 05:56:07 AM »
Another question, as anyone tried to plugin a keyboard to see what happens? I'm almost half tempted to get a cheap PCE Core unit for testing purposes as I'm not so sure plugging in a strange device into my duos will cause the port to go whacko.

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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2012, 07:15:16 AM »

DON'T HEAD DOWN THE WRONG PATH!

You should be modifying a LIGHT PEN to work on the PCE. That would infuse a spicy breath of life to the old DOS games you are porting.

You are welcome.



You mean like the Illust Booster?


No, Illustration Booster was a tablet for a pen:



I want a friggin' LIGHT PEN to use on a CRT screen. You know you want one, too, Black_Tiger

I know the hardware gurus here could whip something up (a nice prototype), and then the homebrew software folks would help write a driver/software for it.

I can dream!
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Re: Apple/prewindows 95 keyboard on the PCE
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2012, 07:26:35 AM »

DON'T HEAD DOWN THE WRONG PATH!

You should be modifying a LIGHT PEN to work on the PCE. That would infuse a spicy breath of life to the old DOS games you are porting.

You are welcome.



You mean like the Illust Booster?


No, Illustration Booster was a tablet for a pen:



I want a friggin' LIGHT PEN to use on a CRT screen. You know you want one, too, Black_Tiger

I know the hardware gurus here could whip something up (a nice prototype), and then the homebrew software folks would help write a driver/software for it.

I can dream!

If we can get a usb to mini din I got a bunch of old topaz signature pads we could try out. Could be interesting hmm...