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Ji-L87

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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #15 on: February 04, 2013, 09:39:27 PM »
EDIT: Just saw that there is a SCART-Adapter for the Framemeister. I can instead use a PAl SCART-Adapter for it right since the Framemeister comes with a japanese one.

Yeah, you'll probably need a RGB 21pin jp to euroscart adapter, or a cable ending in the former. I posted a pinout just a bit up in this thread if you're interested.
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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2013, 10:26:42 PM »

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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2013, 02:09:05 AM »
Made another decision.

a friend is gonna build a custom PAL SCART adapter for me with a on/off switch for the syncstripper so that every kind of RGB scart cable can be connected.

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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2013, 09:20:59 AM »
Just tested my RGB modded Neo Geo with a PAL RGB Scart on the Acer.

This is the result:




Rather ok right?

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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2013, 06:11:51 PM »
That looks a bit better. Still a bit unnecessary block-ish/waxy looking...how's the monitor settings? Looks like it's quite a bit over-sharpened to me :-k
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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2013, 12:00:28 AM »
The sharpness is set to 60 (out of 100).

I still gotta try at what sharpness level it looks soft but not too soft.

But a Framemeister would help immense with the resolution right?

since the Monitor is not that bad in processing the RGB signal from SCART.



Never thought getting a somewaht CRT-like image would be such a hassle^^

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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2013, 02:58:16 AM »
But a Framemeister would help immense with the resolution right?

It will bring back the scanlines making the image more of how it was intended to be viewed. The SLG3000 is a stand-alone unit for JUST scanlines but it's VGA, so you'll need some pin conversion (if it even works with SCART?)

You've read http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/ ?

Never thought getting a somewaht CRT-like image would be such a hassle^^


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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2013, 03:03:59 AM »
The sharpness is set to 60 (out of 100). I still gotta try at what sharpness level it looks soft but not too soft.

What happens if you go down low like 5 or so?

But a Framemeister would help immense with the resolution right?

Yep. Really, as long as any scaler you end up getting is outputing a resolution matching or close to the display's native resolution (1080p in this case) it will really help.

Never thought getting a somewaht CRT-like image would be such a hassle^^

It seems to be a bit of a lottery. Some LCDs are pretty decent with low-res games while others are horrible. I thought this monitor would perform better, but as of right now I'm wondering why they even bothered putting all those inputs on the back when the execution seems half-assed. An external scaler will always be better in a case like this, but it's sad that one have to resort to such measures. What I'm wondering myself right now is if you would have gotten a better result from proper TV in a similar size...doubt it, but not sure.
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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2013, 05:01:05 AM »
A proper TV might have been the better solution.

Well, since I'm gonna play my retro stuff one day on the big 32" screen, a Framemeister would be inevitable anyway :)

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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2013, 02:07:38 AM »
Ok guys.

I have decided that I will get a Framemeister :)

Probably from SolarisJapan. or does anyone know a better source with a good price?


One thing that I noticed is that the Neo Geo RGB scart screen is shifted to the left. As you can see in the screenshot posted above, it does not fit completely.

so I will need to figure out wether I can manually set it right (which should be possible since this is a TV/monitor hybrid).


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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2013, 07:39:54 PM »
@Ji-87:

do you know wether I can manually adjust horizontal/vertical screen position with the Framemeister?

Since my monitor does not have that option (which is rather stupid).

A friend also told me that it could be the RGB SCART cable that I use and that it might have composite sync instead of composite video. Which might be the reason.

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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2013, 07:31:52 PM »
do you know wether I can manually adjust horizontal/vertical screen position with the Framemeister?

I tried reading up a bit but I don't think the Framemeister offers many such options, but looking at the remote, there seems to be options for zooming/letterboxing, aspect ratio, gamma and such.

A friend also told me that it could be the RGB SCART cable that I use and that it might have composite sync instead of composite video. Which might be the reason.

That might be one explanation, to be honest, I'm not very knowledgeable about that kind of stuff and what effects raw sync cables might have on monitors, sorry  :-"

But I'm not sure you'll have to adjust the vertical position much if you feed that monitor through hdmi.
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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2013, 07:45:10 PM »
Had a chat yesterday with someone who has the Framemeister. Appearantly you can manually shift the screen horizotnal/vertical :)

And I have dont it and ordered a Framemeister :)

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Re: PC-FX compatibility with Acer monitor
« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2013, 12:18:32 AM »