I think anyone regaurdless of being new or not has a right to sell their stuff. If they are asking too much money then it's easy to just not buy instead of making someone out as being an a$$hole. It's also easy to decide not to purchase anything based on trust. So it is the buyers choice wheather to purchase anything or not. No one is forcing the members here to buy what is for sale.
Why is it a problem if someone buys a few games at a yard sale and then comes here to sell them at a small profit? Esepcially if said game or games are hard to find ones. This gives us forum members a chance to get some games that we may never be able to find elsewhere.
This is why I voted for a$$holes since it was the closest option.
One problem here is with your opening statement. Yes, they have a right to sell them in general. They have ebay, craigslist, etc. But here no one should simply feel they are entitled to sell anything right from the get go, yet you have people signing up here and pulling shit they obviously would not get away with on any other forum (and no I am not referring to the prices).
This is a forum. Rights are not handed out here freely. You don't have unlimited freedom of speech, freedom to do as you want, where you want, when you want, posting exactly what you want, whether it be porn or whatever on this forum. There are rules and limits, but unfortunately when Nanto tossed the sales section together he didn't have the forethought to put any in place really on this part of the forum, and the fact that you are not even hearing any opinions from mods on this matter right now is damning in and of itself.
Also, sadly its not like anyone is making anyone out to be a a$$hole. Their posting behavior, constant contradicting, packing jobs, and double dealing is what makes them an a$$hole. I really don't care where said person got said games, nor that they come here to sell them. You are turning this into a "not being able to sell at all" sort of thing, which it is not. Its called a restriction for new accounts.
As said prior multiple times, a small post count requirement and being able to provide references works out well on multiple other forums. Many have a feedback system too in place to post positive feedback for buyers and seller, or to report problems so it will be on record. Or, hell even in the extreme case of Vogons, you have no "for sale" section at all, and by proxy, ZERO issues there concerning the matters this forum has currently been facing in the sales section.
This gives us forum members a chance to get some games that we may never be able to find elsewhere.
Also, so far pretty much everything being posted here for sale on PCE and Tg16
can be found elsewhere, so that is really a non-existent issue. Between ebay, craigslist, amazon, rakuten, yahoo japan, other game forums, etc, pretty much everything can be found for a price, and given the recent trend, when people bring the stuff here, no one has really been saving any big bucks, especially on the rarer top tier titles. Everyone is expecting BIN, or near BIN prices, and you are getting less protection as a buyer because you are doing blind buys from unproven sellers.
For some people, a few in the minorities, I'd say their hate of ebay even has made them so blind to the facts and desperate that they are willing to rely on these shady or unproven sources regardless. Buyers out on the fringe of the market place, basically willing to do anything to avoid buying on ebay because of supposed resellers trumped up prices, in the end supporting the same exact resellers anyway because those said people are coming here after not finding buyers on ebay. Its stupidity at its worst, and a few of you are actively taking part in it often here.
Steve and other guy who I forgot to remember the name of, if I added your "against rules in place" votes to the tally, it would be 33 votes in favor of, and 19 against now. Still quite a minority concerning those who are opposed.
NOTE: Just to be a smart ass, its very possible there are those in favor of a rule set being put in place, but simply did not vote because I was the one who started the poll. Its also possible the same people didn't vote because the sky wasn't green last thursday, or two weeks ago ground beef wasn't on sale at their local market. Its also very possible that after a certain point, the numbers don't f*cking matter, because you obviously have a large enough chunk of people here flat out saying there's something broken here that needs to be fixed, and their complaints are being attacked by a few who possibly have their own agenda, and by others who are simply paranoid that no one will sell games here anymore if they have to actually participate in the forum.
