Author Topic: Dynastic Hero (Read 1102 times)

hoobs88 · « **on:** February 27, 2006, 01:35:25 AM »

Seeing as how the US version of Dynastic Hero goes for $150-$300, I decided to purchase a Japanese version for $15. I am stuck in the game because all the text is in Japanese. Does anyone know if there is a walk-through for it? Or could anyone help me defeat the Turtle Boss in the Mayan Temple. I would appreciate any help offered. Thanks!

FM-77 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:22:07 AM »

Click!

I'd say the Mega Drive version is better too.

vestcoat · « **Reply #2 on:** February 27, 2006, 07:49:18 AM »

Quote from: "hoobs88"

Seeing as how the US version of Dynastic Hero goes for $150-$300, I decided to purchase a Japanese version for $15.

you'd be lucky to find it for that price. the last domestic copy on ebay went for over $500. There's actually a huge TG16 sale with just about every US game (listed seperately) on ebay right now and Dynastic Hero was aready at $150+ last time i checked.
It sucks. i also have the PCE copy and it totally kicks ass. i'd love to be able to read the text and play this game easily.

hoobs88 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 27, 2006, 08:03:04 AM »

Thanks for the link! It came in real handy.

malducci · « **Reply #4 on:** February 27, 2006, 08:18:32 AM »

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the last domestic copy on ebay went for over $500

I picked up a US copy for $10 a few years ago at a local used game and book store. I lost it in a move and figured oh well I'll just buy another copy when I get the time. I had no idea it sells for so much

ParanoiaDragon · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2006, 04:11:37 PM »

I deffinitly prefer the Turbo version over the MD version. I love the music, & I love how they redrew the characters! About the only thing I can remember being better in the MD version is that there's "some" paralax in spots, but it's not as bright as the PCE version.

Keranu · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2006, 05:46:02 PM »

They're both pretty equally good, I do think the graphics are just slightly better on the Turbo (brighter as PD said) and I do dig the CD music a little more. The redesigned character in the Turbo one does look a bit dorky, but hey, at least his design is super original!

So what does Keranu recommend? Buying the American or European Genesis/Mega Drive cart and playing through it first so you can understand it, then buying the Japanese PCE SCD version to enjoy it with the differences and have a good understanding of it from your English experience. The Japanese in the PCE version isn't really bad at all though, so you should be in good shape.

FM-77 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 27, 2006, 11:44:05 PM »

Brighter? That's the bad part. I like the graphics in the Mega Drive version because they are darker.

And I hate the character you play in the PCE version. It's just weird. Oh, and the music.... The Mega Drive version sounded awesome, but the cd audio in the PCE version is just nasty!

esteban · « **Reply #8 on:** February 28, 2006, 01:41:06 PM »

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Brighter? That's the bad part. I like the graphics in the Mega Drive version because they are darker.

And I hate the character you play in the PCE version. It's just weird. Oh, and the music.... The Mega Drive version sounded awesome, but the cd audio in the PCE version is just nasty!

Both versions rock, but if we were to compare them in terms of aesthetics, I actually like the re-envisioned character designs used in the PCE version (especially our hero, who looks much more distinctive -- less generic -- than his Mega Drive counterpart). By this point in the series, our hero should have more character and not a bland appearance.

Kaminari mentioned that the PCE version was a tie-in with another license, but I was not (and continue to be) utterly ignorant of what that license was. Anyone remember?

When we go beyond this and compare actual gameplay and how enjoyable the games are.... well, they are both fun, but the U.S. TTi version really holds its own. Needless to say, I don't agree with this comparison that gives the edge to the Mega Drive version.

Keranu · « **Reply #9 on:** February 28, 2006, 02:55:49 PM »

I'm sorry, Dyna 0wnzz Shion. After giving them another look, Shion just looks too generic

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vestcoat · « **Reply #10 on:** February 28, 2006, 04:47:26 PM »

a very frequent theme we talk about on this board are how Turbo games compare to their counterparts on other systems. recently we've talked about Dynastic Hero and Raiden. in the past people have compared the differences between the ACD fighting ports with the ones on the Neo Geo and many other games have been discussed.
one of you people with a turbo website should make a section devoted to side-by-side comparisons between turbo games and their versions on other systems.

currently there are a lot of online reviews about TG16 games but they rarely talk about how they stack up to their equivalents on the MD, SNES, etc.
often the games that ended up on other systems are a hell of a lot cheaper and easier to find than the TG/PCE version and knowing how they compare would be helpful in deciding whether it's worth tracking them down.

Keranu · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2006, 05:44:28 PM »

I have a Ys III comparison for the SNES, TGCD, and Genesis version on my site, but as most of us know, my site isn't up

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FM-77 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2006, 02:36:41 AM »

I agree with a lot on that page. Namely:

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Outfitted in what I can only guess is a suit of beetle-inspired armor; poor Dyna looks pretty dumb compared to the blue-haired Shion. The helmet is what does him in.

Well put! I couldn't have said it better!

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[---]and what I feel gives the Genesis version the easy win based on the redesigned characters is that they're obviously of different design than everything else in the game. The original characters are more cartoon-like and fit with the rest of the games cute characters and colorful backgrounds.

Exactly! Dyna does not fit in the game, and the one who drew it obviously lacks the talent of drawing sprites. I mean .... look at it!

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[...] the CD soundtrack lacks the charm and melody of the Genesis version

It sure does.

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All the game text is different. The text in the Genesis version is pretty much just there. It's bland, but it does its job to clue you in on what you need to do next. The PC-Engine version (well, the Turbo Duo version, since here I'm comparing the English text) has a lot of extremely amusing dialogue. Here are some examples: “Poor today, eh?” when you can't afford an item, “Buy something or I'll sting you!” “Good morning! Bedbugs bite? Go get ‘em!” Maybe it's not so amusing to others, but it's definitely a LOT more colorful than the Genesis English text.

I agree with this. The Turbo Duo version does have better dialogue.

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Next, in the Genesis version, each shield you get has a different visual graphic. All but the final shield in the PC-Engine version look the same (and on a Super CD-ROM² no less, shame on you Hudson).

Why? Because the sprite artist is incompetent, of course!

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The bees in the village look pretty much like faeries with hats that have bee eyes on them.

Again. Incoooompetent.

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The final boss itself has been severely neutered in the PC-Engine version, removing the buzz-saw and conveyor belt that makes the final battle in the Genesis version a royal pain the ass.

...And why is this?

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The Genesis version's graphics and music in my opinion feel more true to the overall style of the game[...]

True. I love the MW series and that's the main reason why I don't like The Dynastic Hero - they butchered a great franchise.

Black Tiger · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2006, 11:30:54 AM »

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True. I love the MW series and that's the main reason why I don't like The Dynastic Hero - they butchered a great franchise.

As far as I'm concerned, they could've really butchered it, say with worse overall graphics and sound... and it'd still be a great game.

I find both versions fun and not just pretty to look at. But I still think that both look and sound awesome, although I haven't sat down to do a scene by scene comparison.

Just like with Lords Of Thunder, the Turbo version may be way better visually, but the Sega-CD game still looks way better than most games and both still have great gameplay and are super fun.

esteban · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2006, 01:44:36 PM »

Quote from: "Seldane"

I agree with a lot on that page. Namely:

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Outfitted in what I can only guess is a suit of beetle-inspired armor; poor Dyna looks pretty dumb compared to the blue-haired Shion. The helmet is what does him in.

Well put! I couldn't have said it better! ...

That's why I linked to that page -- I knew you felt the same way!

Anyway, VESTCOAT, check out sega16.com. They've done a bunch of TG16 vs. Sega comparisons (Dungeon Explorer... ummm, Devil's Crush.... ok, maybe not too many!). I agree, though, it would be fun to have some comparisons across platforms, if only to inform folks of similarities / differences (as opposed to arguing that one version is better than another).

Anyway, I think sega16.com is a great site

I was gonna say something else...

OH YEAH. Seldane, the reason why I like the PCE version is because it is different. If the Genny and PCE version were identical, then there would be very little incentive to play them both. Personally, I like to play all the titles in my favorite series (franchises?)... but even I'll admit that it gets boring when two games are essentially straight ports. It's much more fun when there are some differences, even if these differences are slight (nuanced).

So, I'm totally happy that PCE is unorthodox in the Wonderboy canon.

But the Genny version rules. So we're on the same page, really!

Author Topic: Dynastic Hero (Read 1102 times)

malducci