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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #811 on: October 11, 2015, 03:33:44 PM »
http://tg-16.com/screenshot_comparisons_rpg.htm#Popful_Mail

Oh my goodness, all that gorgeous, colorful eye-candy, bless you esteban for this and many other wonderful pages on that site. :)

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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #812 on: October 12, 2015, 08:26:47 AM »
http://tg-16.com/screenshot_comparisons_rpg.htm#Popful_Mail


Man, I've played them but I never realized how brown the Sega one was until I saw the side-by-sides :(
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esteban

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What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #813 on: October 12, 2015, 10:17:44 AM »
http://tg-16.com/screenshot_comparisons_rpg.htm#Popful_Mail


Man, I've played them but I never realized how brown the Sega one was until I saw the side-by-sides :(


It still is gorgeous though (pixel art is so damn great).

SegaCD Popful Mail is still great.

 
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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #814 on: October 12, 2015, 05:34:46 PM »
 I gave the PC Engine version a run through earlier this year and thought it was pretty fun.  I enjoyed the Sega CD version the few times I played it but I haven't touched it in a long time.  I don't know which version I enjoyed playing more but the PC Engine version's vibrant colors look great on such a cheerful platformer.  Sega CD version just looks too drab.
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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #815 on: October 13, 2015, 01:07:51 PM »

Something I once learned from Game Sack: See that Thomas H. Church credit for Goban Toba ? Yep, that's one in the same as Thomas Haden Church, the Hollywood actor last known for playing Sandman in Spider-Man 3! The Ys Book I & II dub was well-funded and still is one of the best that I know of in a videogame.

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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #816 on: October 13, 2015, 02:59:44 PM »
Honestly the Ys 1&2 voice acting is close to perfect, specially in contrast with Telenet games lol. One can wonder how would be the localization of Ys 3 (maybe 4?) if NEC was the top dog in the console wars.

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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #817 on: October 13, 2015, 03:12:39 PM »
Honestly the Ys 1&2 voice acting is close to perfect, specially in contrast with Telenet games lol. One can wonder how would be the localization of Ys 3 (maybe 4?) if NEC was the top dog in the console wars.

What really impresses me is the year of its release.  Virtually no one else was doing anything remotely like this on consoles.  The quality is superb. 

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« Reply #818 on: October 16, 2015, 12:13:42 AM »
Finally got Spriggan! My first impression is that the audio is blowing me away the most, although I really dig the aesthetics and of course am having loads of fun with it! Somewhat faster feel than other shmups, very cool.

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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #819 on: October 16, 2015, 05:47:49 AM »

Something I once learned from Game Sack: See that Thomas H. Church credit for Goban Toba ? Yep, that's one in the same as Thomas Haden Church, the Hollywood actor last known for playing Sandman in Spider-Man 3! The Ys Book I & II dub was well-funded and still is one of the best that I know of in a videogame.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Haden_Church

Yup.  Jim Cummings is a big one for me.  He's done so many voices for Disney it's not even funny.  He was Darkwing Duck, and is currently the voice of Pete, Winnie the Pooh, and lord knows how many others.  I can't hear Dalles without it sounding like Pete to me.
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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #820 on: October 16, 2015, 07:47:12 AM »


Something I once learned from Game Sack: See that Thomas H. Church credit for Goban Toba ? Yep, that's one in the same as Thomas Haden Church, the Hollywood actor last known for playing Sandman in Spider-Man 3! The Ys Book I & II dub was well-funded and still is one of the best that I know of in a videogame.

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Yup.  Jim Cummings is a big one for me.  He's done so many voices for Disney it's not even funny.  He was Darkwing Duck, and is currently the voice of Pete, Winnie the Pooh, and lord knows how many others.  I can't hear Dalles without it sounding like Pete to me.

Yeah, that's pretty cool, and you know, I think it deserves its own topic which I might make good on if my excursion works out. I've been trying to extract the original ADPCM clips out of the Ys Book I & II data track so we can have the purest/cleanest clips available. It would be great to have a page organized around every actor, their real photo next to their in-game photo esteban-style.

It seems though there has already been a site dedicated to cataloging this type of historical information which does just that! Here's the entry Ys Book I & II:

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/video-games/Ys-Book-I-and-II/side-by-side/

If you listen to the example clips however, some of them were recorded while playing the game on a TV, they're pretty terrible. Many raw ADPCM clips often don't include the background music as that's generated at runtime with PSG code, so if all of them can be extracted, we'll have the cleanest possible sound provided the best ADPCM-to-WAVE conversion software can be used (the best that I know of is Sound Exchange).

Anyway, I already made good progress and tracked down the offset where much of the ADPCM voice-acting begins - I have Thomas H. Church's work already extracted and playing nicely! I just have to divide the data up properly for the extraction batch files so that they can be shared in a dub kit (as I did for Ys IV), identify it all, see how much is there, etc.
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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #821 on: October 16, 2015, 09:30:34 AM »
^ I love this—can't wait to hear what you get. Sadly, the ADPCM audio clips are of a significantly lower quality... :(
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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #822 on: October 16, 2015, 10:41:10 AM »
Yeah, unless some old NEC employee finds all the project materials like the original source recordings, the raw ADPCM binary stream from the Ys Book I & II data track is the best that we'll ever get...

That's if guessing that they were recorded in wave first; they could've went directly to ADPCM and so there might not actually exist a recording that's better in quality. But nah, that's a silly bet since some of the voice-acting is on the redbook audio tracks, so they were recording to wave (AKA 16-bit stereo 44100 Hz PCM) first in those cases, thus original wave files likely do exist of everything on some old NEC USA computer right now, but who knows where it's all at... :)

Would be cool if companies thought to donate old hard drives and what not with stuff like that to videogame historical/preservation groups but obviously things like that would rate very low, if ever, on a priority list. Would be a shame if it all just sort of got thrown out with the trash. In 1990, what kind of PC would they have been using for a localization project, like say a Tandy 1000 ?? How long would you keep equipment like that around as a company ?? It's probably safe to say most stuff got nuked after they got out of the videogame business on the US side of things...
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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #823 on: October 19, 2015, 11:14:21 AM »
So, PCE gets. I very rare buy any new Obey these days because of the LOL pricing as of late, but I did just get in a new Avenue 6 pad today! I was skeptical that it was actually new due to the relatively low price and was prepared to argue for a partial refund if it was actually used.



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Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?
« Reply #824 on: October 19, 2015, 11:52:43 AM »
Just got my imported arcade card pro so I could play Sapphire and such on my briefcase setup. I was also fortunate enough to pick up Ys Book I & II off ebay. Have not played Ys since I was a kid in the 90s so I am pretty excited to enjoy it again.