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DarkKobold

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Hu Cards breaking?
« on: April 04, 2013, 10:44:23 AM »
Does anyone else have experience with broken hu-cards? I've had, so far, only one broken hu-card that would not work, despite massive cleaning, a copy of Ordyne. However, unlike NES, SNES, Genesis, etc carts, once a hu card is broken, its fairly impossible to troubleshoot.

I'm curious how many others have experienced a Hucard that was either already broken, or they managed to break; I'd like to know how frequent it happens, and how it does happen.
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Re: Hu Cards breaking?
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2013, 10:48:10 AM »
I got overly excited and ate a KC for breakfast to get my Daily PCE intake.


Ahhh I got a broken in half Down the middle  long wise KC years ago in a lot.   :shock:
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Re: Hu Cards breaking?
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2013, 11:57:54 AM »
 Its not broken. Its just ordyne.   :D

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 01:54:49 PM »
PC Genjin 2 is mentioned more than other games as having issues or dying altogether. Of course, it's also probably one of the higher print and played games.
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Re: Hu Cards breaking?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 02:06:58 PM »
I think that it might be interesting to sacrifice a few Kieth Courage cards to find out how durable the things really are.  Perhaps tests with bending, temperature, water, etc.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2013, 02:27:34 PM »
I think that it might be interesting to sacrifice a few Kieth Courage cards to find out how durable the things really are.  Perhaps tests with bending, temperature, water, etc.

This is actually a good idea I might do this if I get some free time.
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Re: Hu Cards breaking?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2013, 02:45:28 PM »
I just got a non working Dead Moon today.  I can't get it running no matter what! :(

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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2013, 03:30:18 PM »
This happened to me with a copy of Image Fight bought off ebay from that a$$hole seller bonesmeister a short while back. Listed the game in excellent condition, tested and working. Card arrived with heavy wear on the back of the card and also the card was DOA. Tried on two diff systems, and results were the same. After you press start at the title screen the game would freeze up. If you did nothing when the game tried to load the demo mode the same would occur. I'd also mention the seller sold items to me before that were not as described. His excuse was that he had multiple copies and a worker overlooked the damage by mistake when packing the items. I gave the benefit of doubt, tried him again, and got a Image Fight fail. Oh well, life goes on.

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Re: Hu Cards breaking?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2013, 04:07:03 PM »
Its not broken. Its just ordyne.   :D

So you are saying, not working is possibly a gameplay improvement? I'd be inclined to agree!

I think that it might be interesting to sacrifice a few Kieth Courage cards to find out how durable the things really are.  Perhaps tests with bending, temperature, water, etc.

There are some interesting videos on youtube of people beating the ever loving shit out of SMB/Duckhunt carts, and them still working. I think the form factor of the hucard makes me believe that it is just much less durable.

PC Genjin 2 is mentioned more than other games as having issues or dying altogether. Of course, it's also probably one of the higher print and played games.

As an aside, I don't get why PC Genjin 2 is sold for $40 on ebay. Its worth more than Bonk's Revenge, which is #1, English, and #2, (probably) far less published.
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2013, 04:39:11 PM »
HuCards are less durable. Mostly,m they break due to bending.
Why?

Cartridge games use stock chips, encased in plastic. To get the small height of a HuCard, only the dies are used for the chips - no enclosing plastic, just some black rubbery stuff to prevent shorting out.
I believe the problem is, the connecting wires tend to break/come loose when the card is bent.
Yes, I've checked with an ohm meter - the only 'dead' cards I've seen had open connections on some pins, including +5V. Cleaning the rubber stuff off is a pain, so I only checked one or two.

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Re: Hu Cards breaking?
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2013, 05:26:13 PM »
Its not broken. Its just ordyne.   :D

WHAT!?  I was just playing Ordyne earlier today.  It's no Gradius or Thunder game, but it's 2-player simultaneous and has freaking awesome music.  Honestly, I don't know what they were thinking releasing it in the US over other titles at the time, but I'm glad that they did because I spent a bunch of hours playing it with a  buddy back in High School. I've beaten it more than once and it's always a blast to pop in and play for a bit.  

To get back on topic, I've never experienced a broken HuCard, though it pops up from time to time on the forums.  Once my Arcade Card went funky on me while playing my Sapphire Booty, but I was using a diving board converter at the time and it hasn't arisen since my console was region modded.
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« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2013, 02:39:23 AM »
Its not broken. Its just ordyne.   :D

WHAT!?  I was just playing Ordyne earlier today.  It's no Gradius or Thunder game...

It's no Sidearms either.

I've had Hu's the need some added thickness to work. I put some paper on the bottom of the card to help make contact with the slot. SF2' is the biggest culprit.
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« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2013, 03:39:10 AM »
I had a Wonder Momo that was going to be used for raffle that was DOA.  I tried everything I could to bring her back but she was dead for good.
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Re: Hu Cards breaking?
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2013, 03:47:11 AM »
Its not broken. Its just ordyne.   :D

WHAT!?  I was just playing Ordyne earlier today.  It's no Gradius or Thunder game, but it's 2-player simultaneous and has freaking awesome music.  Honestly, I don't know what they were thinking releasing it in the US over other titles at the time, but I'm glad that they did because I spent a bunch of hours playing it with a  buddy back in High School. I've beaten it more than once and it's always a blast to pop in and play for a bit. 

To get back on topic, I've never experienced a broken HuCard, though it pops up from time to time on the forums.  Once my Arcade Card went funky on me while playing my Sapphire Booty, but I was using a diving board converter at the time and it hasn't arisen since my console was region modded.

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BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere.

You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

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Re: Hu Cards breaking?
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2013, 05:30:56 AM »
I've never seen a broken HuCard, but then I've never bent one either. There is a very evocotive cartoon in the front of many manuals saying not to do this so...I never did it.

BTW, Ordyne is great. f*ck you guys.