PC Engine Hucard soundtracks that use sampled drums

[VenomMacbeth]

Because let's face it, typically the chip-produced drum tones don't really compete with samples IMHO.  So, what games are there like this?  I'll start working on a list here...

Soldier Blade
Override
Super Star Soldier
Fighting Run
Dead Moon
Batman
Shubibinman 1 & 2
Final Soldier
Bonks/PC Genjins
Devil's Crush
Blazing Lazers
Somer Assault
Time Cruise
1943
Coryoon
Air Zonk
Energy
21 Emon
Metal Stoker
Champions Forever Boxing
Populous
Cyber Core
Toilet Kids
Zipang
Bravoman
Hisou Kaiserd
Granzort
Motoroader 1 & 2
1942 Kai
Hana Taka Daka
Salamander
Gradius
Detana Twinbee
Parodius Da!
Hit the Ice
Xevious Fardraut Saga

[Arkhan]

Bonk uses them.

Tatsujin does also.

[SignOfZeta]

When they do I can hardly tell.

[VenomMacbeth]

When they do I can hardly tell.

Really!?  You should compare tracks from Soldier Blade to, say, Thunder Blade.  There's a pretty noticeable difference in quality.

[Tatsujin]

But that quality difference can have several other reasons.

[SuperDeadite]

Coryoon has the best Huey drums on the system.

[VenomMacbeth]

But that quality difference can have several other reasons.

Like the fact that Thunder Blade isn't great in general?   Well then, compare it to After Burner or Veigues...or even Raiden!

[SignOfZeta]

But that quality difference can have several other reasons.

Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is that the difference between a white noise based snare and a crappy sample of a snare is...pretty small.

[Black Tiger]

Because let's face it, typically the chip-produced drum tones don't really compete with samples IMHO.  So, what games are there like this?  The only ones I can think of are the Soldier games, and Gunhed, but there must be more.

Let's face it, PCE (and Genesis) chip sound drums are awesome. Samples can be cool too and it can often be hard to tell if a game is using chip sound or samples for drums. I believe that I started one of the previous sampled drum threads, that should give you a nice list.

Some off the top of my head:

Devil's Crush
Time Cruise
BlaZing LaZers
Super star Soldier
Final Soldier
Soldier Blade
Batman
Somer Assault
Shubibinman
1943
Coryoon
Air Zonk
Energy
21 Emon
Override
Metal Stoker
Champions Forever Boxing
Populous
Cyber Core
Toilet Kids
Zipang
Bravoman
Granzort
Hisou Kaiserd
Motoroader II
Cyber Knight
Sinistron


CD chip tunes with (likely use at least some adpcm) drum samples:

Dragon Slayer
Cyber City OEDO 808
Genocide

But that quality difference can have several other reasons.

Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is that the difference between a white noise based snare and a crappy sample of a snare is...pretty small.

Wow.

[SmaMan]

Moto Roader uses them too. Sounds pretty cool, though that soundtrack's pretty nice in a minimalist sort of way.

It's not PC Engine, but ever play Seiken Denestsu 3 on the Super Famicom? The sampled drums there always seem to stick out in my mind the most. For example:

[Arkhan]

Everything on SFC is a sample, though.


Some of the drum sampling is pretty much a "yeah thats cool".   I think he drums in Bonk's Adventure are probably the best use of sampled drums, because of the congo bongo vibe they give out.

[sunteam_paul]

Everything on SFC is a sample, though.


Some of the drum sampling is pretty much a "yeah thats cool".   I think he drums in Bonk's Adventure are probably the best use of sampled drums, because of the congo bongo vibe they give out.

Thay're samples? Are you sure? I'm not buying it.

Also, Tatsujin drums are chip generated. This I know for certain.

[Arkhan]

Thay're samples? Are you sure? I'm not buying it.

I am pretty sure the bongos are samples.  If not, they're really f*cking well done and I'd love to know how they accomplished it.

Also, Tatsujin drums are chip generated.  This I know for certain.

Hmm.  I always remembered them being sampled.  I just checked though, turns out, they're not!  That's good to know.

This probably means Zeta is on the right track with the whole "not a big deal" thing.

a lot of the chip generated drums sound perfectly fine and you end up remembering them as samples, apparently.

[sunteam_paul]

Tatsujin is a bit of an exception as its chips drums are some much more awesome than 99% of others.
City Hunter has a few good chip drums as well. It's a pity that NEC Avenue couldn't sort themselves out, every time I hear their attempt at drum sounds, vomit pours out of my ears.


Bugger me, you may be right about PC Genjin sample drums. Cutting out the other channels, there is a definite hiss behind the drum sounds that you'd get from a sample.

[Arkhan]

Tatsujin is a bit of an exception as its chips drums are some much more awesome than 99% of others.

Yeah, the snare is really thick and thumpy, which is why I recalled it being a sample.  Turns out they just did a really good job.

Bugger me, you may be right about PC Genjin sample drums. Cutting out the other channels, there is a definite hiss behind the drum sounds that you'd get from a sample.

I am hoping its a sample, otherwise I need to figure out how the hell they made bongos without samples.


Here's a question, what do people think of MY chiptune drum sounds?