Xbox One

[roflmao]

I guess they stopped. This is what I got:

Funny, it just worked for me. 

[Tatsujin]

[Black Tiger]

Sorry, guys, but I won't be buying either one.
As for M$oft reversing its position, all I can say is .....
"Hey sony! Where's my ps2 compatibility other OS?"

In 3 years, once its -in- your house, a firmware update will put it back in....

Fixed that for ya.  They never took away the backwards compatibility, they just quit selling it.

It wouldn't have come off as crooked if they simply did that or if they never had any kind of backwards compatibily in the first place. They cut that feature without cutting the proportionate price of the new bundles and then began selling digital emulated versions of old Playstation games. It would have been cool if the digital versions could be downloaded and run for free as long as a hard copy of the game sits in the disc drive. But they purposefully set out to gouge their previous customers by making them pay full price to play their existing playstation games on the current system. It's cool that there was a bit of freedom for playing digital games. But even if Microsoft wasn't doing it for free at the time, Sony should have made it part of the deal for digital Playstation sales that each old game listed for sale has an unlockable download. Kind of like Xbox Arcade games having a demo version available.

[Necromancer]

Don't they all have PS1 backwards compatibility?  I don't think that was ever removed.

As for PS2 b.c., the first non-b.c. system (40gb) was $100 cheaper than any earlier system; and when the original 80gb b.c. system was dropped for a non-b.c. version, it too was $100 cheaper.

[NightWolve]

They cut that feature without cutting the proportionate price of the new bundles and then began selling digital emulated versions of old Playstation games. ... But they purposefully set out to gouge their previous customers by making them pay full price to play their existing playstation games on the current system.

Oh, so there was no cost cutting in doing this (however small), as in less chips or circuitry in the design, it's a total software emulator and they simply began excluding it ?? If so, yeah, that was a shitty thing to do. I have to buy the system eventually, I did buy one game, Metal Gear Solid 4, so I'd like to play it some day... I guess I could just borrow the system from a neighbor/friend I know that has one. Since the system is dying, with PS4 on the way, I dunno if I should ever really dig into the library the way that I did for PS2. BUT, since I have a decent PS2 library, I would like to own the version that is backwards compatible so I can make eventual use of that HDMI connection. That's a bigger selling point for me in eventually wanting to own it.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Don't they all have PS1 backwards compatibility?  I don't think that was ever removed.

As for PS2 b.c., the first non-b.c. system (40gb) was $100 cheaper than any earlier system; and when the original 80gb b.c. system was dropped for a non-b.c. version, it too was $100 cheaper.

Yeah, I could be wrong, but I believe all PS3's play PS1 discs thankfully.

[TR0N]

They cut that feature without cutting the proportionate price of the new bundles and then began selling digital emulated versions of old Playstation games. ... But they purposefully set out to gouge their previous customers by making them pay full price to play their existing playstation games on the current system.

Oh, so there was no cost cutting in doing this (however small), as in less chips or circuitry in the design, it's a total software emulator and they simply began excluding it ?? If so, yeah, that was a shitty thing to do. I have to buy the system eventually, I did buy one game, Metal Gear Solid 4, so I'd like to play it some day... I guess I could just borrow the system from a neighbor/friend I know that has one. Since the system is dying, with PS4 on the way, I dunno if I should ever really dig into the library the way that I did for PS2. BUT, since I have a decent PS2 library, I would like to own the version that is backwards compatible so I can make eventual use of that HDMI connection. That's a bigger selling point for me in eventually wanting to own it.

PS3 that have the bc in it for PS2 games are the following.

60GB
20GB
40GB

Then with the later models it's dropped but all can play PS1 games.

[geise]

Not all 40GB PS3's play ps2 games.  Mine is a 40gb old model and they will not work on mine.

BTW does the PS3 do any upscaling with ps2 games going through HDMI? 

[MotherGunner]

Not all 40GB PS3's play ps2 games.  Mine is a 40gb old model and they will not work on mine.

BTW does the PS3 do any upscaling with ps2 games going through HDMI? 

All PS3 do still play PS1 games though!  Yes, upscaling on both PS1 and PS2 on the BC models, all PS1 otherwise.

[seieienbu]

Finally an explanation of why Kinect is always on:

www.vg247.com/2013/07/04/xbox-one-built-with-advertising-in-mind-kinect-integral-to-next-gen-adverts/comment-page-1/#comment-507499

The answer is targeted advertising.  I've played my 360 a bunch over the years.  The only 2 things that I've ever used it for are playing games and buying games off of the XB marketplace.  There are other features on the thing to, but I don't care about them.  If I want to watch a video I'll use my computer.  I don't want my gaming platform to give me ads. 

On Xbox, the ad is part of the actual experience, it’s not something that is outside. The only difference is that the advertisement we have is quite small and not disruptive so people are not aware of clicking on the banners because they know this is a part of the whole experience on the dash,” said the Senior Digital Art Director/UX Designer. “So the users know that this is something that when they click on it, they won’t be hit by something crazy or something dangerous like on the web. Everything that lands there, we create.

Call me a skeptic but I honestly just don't believe this article.  I don't think there will be commercials in my games or anything, but I highly doubt I'll ever forget that I'm seeing an ad when I'm seeing an ad.

[esadajr]

I don't want my gaming platform to give me ads.

Exactly, I just want to put the game in the console and play it. As simple as that. No ads, no promos, no updates, no DLCs, no upsells.

(censored) these (censored).

[EvilEvoIX]

I don't want my gaming platform to give me ads.

Exactly, I just want to put the game in the console and play it. As simple as that. No ads, no promos, no updates, no DLCs, no upsells.

(censored) these (censored).

This is the trouble when Marketing Execs take over product development.  They just want too nickle and dime people left and right, charge people as many times as possible.  It makes me sick, the greed is dripping and I just can't justify moving forward, we may even have another Video Game Crash if we are not careful.

[sunteam_paul]

[wildfruit]

i can think of a few examplesfrom the past
cool spot
mcdonalds games
i think there was a dominos game on the nes as well but at least you had a choice to buy or not
this forced advertising is ridiculous

[seieienbu]

The Dominos game was Yo Noid.  Burger King had some promotion at the end of old xbox/early xbox 360 where you'd play the King mascot in some stealth game where you'd find people and give them burgers.