Md 68k and hu6280 comparison

[Tatsujin]

Grafx.  First thing you notice is the colors and the MD68K could never hope to have any of this.

You see, this very intelligent and masterly statement of yours alone proves, that you have absolutely ZERO (0) knowledge about what you're talking about.

So the MD68K does have any colors? Tell me then smart boy, where are these colors exactly located inside the 68K? And how comes, that other hardwares using the very same 68K have way more colors than the one used in the MD?

I'm waiting eagerly to a logical explanation of yours genius :!:

According to this site all the MD can display is brown.  

Knock of that bullshit and bring us a correct answer with some substantiated fact onto the table.
Prove us just once, what great stunner and ingenious chap you are.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

According to this site all the MD can display is brown.  This thread is basically a comparison between the MD68K and the HU6280.  Yes I know the VDP displays the colors using RGB in bit format.  Again semantics.  Argue the processor please.

Actually we are just trolling you for your ultimate retardedness in thinking that all the tricks you saw the Genesis do on screen had to do with the 68000, and your total lack of knowledge concerning the VDP, how it works, what it does, everything concerning sprites and background scrolling, etc. About everyone here knows it can do more then display brown. The fact is though you think the Genesis system, and the 68000 in general, seems to do alot more then it does or is capable of, while most others here recognize and admit to its limits as a game system and the limits of the 68000 cpu. In most peoples eyes here its a good system, but we don't trump it up as the be all end all and candy coat that trump up with a couple spoons of Alien Soldier and ResQ on top while spitting out absolute nonsense about the Pc Engine.


(note I should know it does more then display the color brown. I'm one of the few that refined the svideo mod for the damn things Model 1 and Xeye. Pfft, obviously it can do 62 shades of brown, not one or 50 or anything.)

[HercTNT]

Evil. assume for a second that we all got you wrong and your not really trolling but defending your point. Please then take a second to answer a few honest questions. And if i'm wrong, feel free to correct me in a civil manner.

Is the thread about cpu vs cpu? or system vs system?
If its cpu vs cpu, the sound and the video are irrelevent as the cpu produces neither.
If its system vs system then they do matter as its about the core components that make up the machine.
Did you not say yourself near the beggining of this thread that you felt as if people had you all wrong because it was cpu vs cpu and not about the systems?
If so doesnt that make everyone's arguments, including yours, about sprites and backgrounds and sound channels etc irrelevant and off topic?
So do we misunderstand you? or did you change your mind and this is really a system vs system rant and you forgot to tell anyone?

[EvilEvoIX]

I like turtles.   That said everyone and their mother knew this thread would go to hell in a hand basket.  Even if it was just CPU vs CPU.  People just started bringing up more or bs and I went down the hole.  Yes I know what a VDP is and how it displays RGB in bit format.  We are simply looking at cpu's.  that and Altered Beast on the PCE sucks.

[Tatsujin]

Evil. assume for a second that we all got you wrong and your not really trolling but defending your point. Please then take a second to answer a few honest questions. And if i'm wrong, feel free to correct me in a civil manner.

Is the thread about cpu vs cpu? or system vs system?
If its cpu vs cpu, the sound and the video are irrelevent as the cpu produces neither.
If its system vs system then they do matter as its about the core components that make up the machine.
Did you not say yourself near the beggining of this thread that you felt as if people had you all wrong because it was cpu vs cpu and not about the systems?
If so doesnt that make everyone's arguments, including yours, about sprites and backgrounds and sound channels etc irrelevant and off topic?
So do we misunderstand you? or did you change your mind and this is really a system vs system rant and you forgot to tell anyone?

Damn, those are some heavy questions to answer and also so many at once. Not sure our candidate here will be capable of accomplishing this high task asked  (purely judged from all his previous answers and comments done so far).

:edit:

I like turtles.

Q.E.D.

[EvilEvoIX]

Evil. assume for a second that we all got you wrong and your not really trolling but defending your point. Please then take a second to answer a few honest questions. And if i'm wrong, feel free to correct me in a civil manner.

Is the thread about cpu vs cpu? or system vs system?
If its cpu vs cpu, the sound and the video are irrelevent as the cpu produces neither.
If its system vs system then they do matter as its about the core components that make up the machine.
Did you not say yourself near the beggining of this thread that you felt as if people had you all wrong because it was cpu vs cpu and not about the systems?
If so doesnt that make everyone's arguments, including yours, about sprites and backgrounds and sound channels etc irrelevant and off topic?
So do we misunderstand you? or did you change your mind and this is really a system vs system rant and you forgot to tell anyone?

Damn, those are some heavy questions to answer and also so many at once. Not sure our candidate here will be capable of accomplishing this high task asked  (purely judged from all his previous answers and comments done so far).

:edit:

I like turtles.

Q.E.D.

Funny,  I was unsure if you were capable of counting sprites?

[Tatsujin]

Evil. assume for a second that we all got you wrong and your not really trolling but defending your point. Please then take a second to answer a few honest questions. And if i'm wrong, feel free to correct me in a civil manner.

Is the thread about cpu vs cpu? or system vs system?
If its cpu vs cpu, the sound and the video are irrelevent as the cpu produces neither.
If its system vs system then they do matter as its about the core components that make up the machine.
Did you not say yourself near the beggining of this thread that you felt as if people had you all wrong because it was cpu vs cpu and not about the systems?
If so doesnt that make everyone's arguments, including yours, about sprites and backgrounds and sound channels etc irrelevant and off topic?
So do we misunderstand you? or did you change your mind and this is really a system vs system rant and you forgot to tell anyone?

Damn, those are some heavy questions to answer and also so many at once. Not sure our candidate here will be capable of accomplishing this high task asked  (purely judged from all his previous answers and comments done so far).

:edit:

I like turtles.

Q.E.D.

Funny,  I was unsure if you were capable of counting sprites?

Have not exact clue of what you are trying here to tell me again, but I just had an other idea of why not showing your daddy the way into this forum here, may be he is able to substantiate any of the stuff you couldn't.

[EvilEvoIX]

Evil. assume for a second that we all got you wrong and your not really trolling but defending your point. Please then take a second to answer a few honest questions. And if i'm wrong, feel free to correct me in a civil manner.

Is the thread about cpu vs cpu? or system vs system?
If its cpu vs cpu, the sound and the video are irrelevent as the cpu produces neither.
If its system vs system then they do matter as its about the core components that make up the machine.
Did you not say yourself near the beggining of this thread that you felt as if people had you all wrong because it was cpu vs cpu and not about the systems?
If so doesnt that make everyone's arguments, including yours, about sprites and backgrounds and sound channels etc irrelevant and off topic?
So do we misunderstand you? or did you change your mind and this is really a system vs system rant and you forgot to tell anyone?

Damn, those are some heavy questions to answer and also so many at once. Not sure our candidate here will be capable of accomplishing this high task asked  (purely judged from all his previous answers and comments done so far).

:edit:

I like turtles.

Q.E.D.

Funny,  I was unsure if you were capable of counting sprites?

Have not exact clue of what you are trying here to tell me again, but I just had an other idea of why not showing your daddy the way into this forum here, may be he is able to substantiate any of the stuff you couldn't.

I can't seem to pierce your blind fanaticism but I have been attacked from every angle except straight on.  Still clinging to the fact that beyond a shadow of a doubt the HU6280 is indeed faster per clock cycle than the MD68K.  Any beliefs otherwise was mass propaganda started my Amiga fan bois.  Fascists....  That 68K myth needs to die already.

[Tatsujin]

Evil. assume for a second that we all got you wrong and your not really trolling but defending your point. Please then take a second to answer a few honest questions. And if i'm wrong, feel free to correct me in a civil manner.

Is the thread about cpu vs cpu? or system vs system?
If its cpu vs cpu, the sound and the video are irrelevent as the cpu produces neither.
If its system vs system then they do matter as its about the core components that make up the machine.
Did you not say yourself near the beggining of this thread that you felt as if people had you all wrong because it was cpu vs cpu and not about the systems?
If so doesnt that make everyone's arguments, including yours, about sprites and backgrounds and sound channels etc irrelevant and off topic?
So do we misunderstand you? or did you change your mind and this is really a system vs system rant and you forgot to tell anyone?

Damn, those are some heavy questions to answer and also so many at once. Not sure our candidate here will be capable of accomplishing this high task asked  (purely judged from all his previous answers and comments done so far).

:edit:

I like turtles.

Q.E.D.

Funny,  I was unsure if you were capable of counting sprites?

Have not exact clue of what you are trying here to tell me again, but I just had an other idea of why not showing your daddy the way into this forum here, may be he is able to substantiate any of the stuff you couldn't.

I can't seem to pierce your blind fanaticism but I have been attacked from every angle except straight on.  Still clinging to the fact that beyond a shadow of a doubt the HU6280 is indeed faster per clock cycle than the MD68K.  Any beliefs otherwise was mass propaganda started my Amiga fan bois.  Fascists....

 

[HercTNT]

REGAL!!!!!  is that you?!

[Vecanti]

I can't seem to pierce your blind fanaticism but I have been attacked from every angle except straight on.  Still clinging to the fact that beyond a shadow of a doubt the HU6280 is indeed faster per clock cycle than the MD68K.  Any beliefs otherwise was mass propaganda started my Amiga fan bois.  Fascists....

The original post:

Hi all, i have this in mind for a while ..

How 6280 can compete with Md 68k in performance
Of course in case of video game consoles, not in general use(like a computer) .

It seems that in bloc transfert ,the 68k is more capable (with more code of course) ..

Basically, how can they "compete in performance".  It seemed like pretty straight forward question.  There was nothing about graphics or games or fun. 

Performance can be measured a lot ways. Bits and MHZ, as far as I know, is generally a very bad way to measure performance between two completely difference 'families' of CPUs.  So you have to look at, well, that has been covered pretty well already in this thread. 

Comparing the the graphics capabilities and colors of the video chips is not a way to measure performance of the CPU though as far as I am aware.  Comparing peripherals such as CD add ons is not a way to measure CPU performance as far as I am aware. The fun of a game is not a good way to measure CPU performance as far as I am aware. Comparing how good one team ported graphics from an arcade cabinet game is not a good measure of CPU performance as far as I am aware.  These are things that one might use to compare a complete system however, but that would be completely off topic to this thread, as far as I am aware.

[EvilEvoIX]

The answer to the thread is the HU6280 is faster and can move more sprites than the MD68k. 

[SignOfZeta]

The answer to the thread is the HU6280 is faster and can move more sprites than the MD68k. 

The answer to this thread is that you can go piss up a rope.

f*cking hell...

[EvilEvoIX]

Here's a great article from EGM Issue #8 from January 1990.  Very nostalgic and very fun looking back at what was.  If you are really interested the entire magazine has been uploaded on www.sega-16.com and if you can sift through the MD68K propaganda it's a good read.  They even go into detail and review JJ and Jeff seriously.


Enjoy....














Just for fun....

[Tatsujin]

ROLF!

Read through the first few lines and I instantly recognized that these boys back in 1990 had about as much knowledge of the systems (especially the TG16) as you have today Great reference