You see that’s just it, you can’t see the forest for the trees. In the West it was better. Everybody and their mother pointed out the “8-bittedness” of a lot of the games. Now of course that means nothing technically but here in the West a LOT of the games just stunk. Here in the states the MD eventually unseated Nintendo and was number one, it was number one in the UK by a larger margin. Almost nothing took advantage of the HU6280 here in the states and the best games were mail order. I have them now, I play them now, they didn’t compare to what was available in the West at the time, the majority I am speaking of.
If that was truly the case, I would only judge the system, any system, by the native North American library. I am a open minded gamer. I play imports and have tried to play about anything worth playing on most systems other then PS1. I also don't consider the NA release list for TG to just totally suck and the best games were not simply by mail order. I don't think you even had a Turbografx back in the day. You definitely don't sound like you did.
There was plenty of shooters and action games in there to make the library legitimately fun. Outside of the few games actually developed by North American developers, most were games like Raiden, Aero Blasters, Bloody Wolf, Alien/Devils Crush, Cadash, Bonks Revenge, Splatterhouse, Ninja Spirit, Parasol Stars, Air Zonk, Bomber Man 93, Chase HQ, Galaga 90, Super Star soldier, Soldier Blade, Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu, New Adventure Island, R-Type, etc. Thats not even covering cd game releases here in the US. Just because you decided to jump in during 2013 doesn't mean the rest of us missed out on either the US or Japanese side of things.
So again, tell me this, in the list above, do most of these titles feel "borderline 8-BIT" to you? Because again, most that are arcade ports retain the look and feel of the arcade original, which was 16-BIT. and then you always have games like Raiden and Bomberman 93, both of which completely suck ass visually on the Genesis.
Now for the Japanese market the system ruled and towards the end of the systems life it had comparable games and like you said Arcade games. Those CD ROM games added a lot of frames of animation that could not be fit on a cart and like many people said the CD rom was in the cards for the PCE since day one and it shows. I am hammering through a lot of these games and ordering more. Do you want me to post all the vids of the bad games I mean it's a shame they even call them Super CD Rom games when there is nothing super about them.
No doubt, the Japanese market did rule, which is why I have been open to importing for years, even for systems like the Neo-Geo or 3DO. Concerning Japanese PCE library, yes, it had a large cache of arcade ports, and yes, most of them were very good to excellent. Most all were better then their Mega Drive/Genesis counterparts. "Comparable" is hardly the word to describe it. Concerning you posting more videos, I think not. I could really care less as far as what you think is a good game versus a bad one. At best all you could do is hope to amuse me by blowing spit on a few games or something like you did the av cable.
You could blame 3rd party or 1st party support, economics, the times, the wind, but the system had trouble delivering. Now this site and this site only seems to have a series of cascading excuses a kin to a mother making excuses for her child and for every group of "programmers" on this site that say once thing I can get just as many from another forum that says another.
Other then whatever it is you are rambling on about in the first sentence, concerning most of the second, and think it has been confirmed you tried preaching elsewhere and were shot down. It's your destiny to fail. You are just repeating a cycle of events here as you build up some solid ignores along the way.
I will agree that there is no definitive answer and most of the answers we find are really just based in sales and market predictions from the day (as I posted).
The answers you found are based on hype and old magazines and a few fanboi based opinions. I decided to settle on proof of solid engineering via playable examples presented to me in the form of games.
What I still don't like from my gaming experience on the Turbo/PCE?
What makes you think we care. No one here considers you a legitimate gamer anymore.
1. Every time there is a fire ball on screen in street fighter 2, at least in my copy, there is slow down.
You're imagining things. Stop being retarded.
2. I don't like the sound FX on the PCE in comparison. Every video above that you posted to show me great sounf FX has me just confused. I can't tell if you are joking or not. I mean they are fun and all but those blits and bloobs are hardly next gen.
For one, I really don't care if you like the PCE sound or not. Its subjective to say the least. Two, every video I linked to was to give you a music example, not a sound fx one. Three, the sound fx in the videos for the Genesis versions were not any better. You are clearly hearing what you want to hear and seeing what you want to see, and again, no one takes your opinion seriously anymore.
3.How everybody and their mother cranks it to Sapphire but it is just on par. Great game to play but not the visual orgy everyone rants and raves about. I played through it and gave it a thumbs up, what more do you want a standing ovation and me crying?
Not once have I brought up Sapphire to make my case in point. As stated, I don't believe in razzle dazzle, and to me Sapphire is a C+ game at best. Its a visual showcase at best, and personally I could care less for its art style. I will take Gradius II on PCE any day of the week over Sapphire.
4.Have you played AOF on the PCE Arcade? Not exactly a great arcade conversion. I have the arcade and the game, a lot is missing and a LOT of animation is missing. The sound FX were bad as well. Yes, I get it, a CD holds a lot more than a cart, more animation of a CD I get it.
I have owned and played every release of Art of Fighting released to market, including the Neo CD, MVS, and AES releases. I am a bit of a AOF nut who will staunchly defend the game against all AOF haters who hate its complicated attack system (throw attack doubling as strong attacks and also being held and used in conjunction with normal punch and kick for low blows etc) or its difficulty. This is how I noticed things like the background scrolling layer in the Genesis port and how it is absent from the Neo.
Concerning the animation on the PCE, no, it is not 100 percent perfect, but it is hands down the best version available outside of the NeoGeo and PS2 anthology, and it is also mostly intact, even to the extent that it presents the forward and back walking animations and things like the animated street signs in the background in the bar. There is honestly not that much character animation missing. It is very minute. And regardless of ram storage, the other version, Mega Drive and Snes, dont play too hot. This is espically true of the Genesis/MD port. Try playing it. It plays like a joke and it is even actually missing entire moves/attacks that even the Snes version retained.
If you think otherwise, again, you are imagining things. But again, this goes without saying. You're the fool that stated that the PCE felt "borderline 8-bit", the same system with tons of arcade ports with quality so high they proved its visual superiority over the Genesis/MD VDP. You lost all credibility with me concerning arcade ports when you stated that "borderline 8-bit" bullshit. Now all I consider you to be is a late coming poser youtube upstart begging for video views (we call this attention whoring, so you go girl
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That thing had a giant piece of dust on it. I guess my Go Prop didn't get it.
Uhh huh, yeah, its really hard to get giant imaginary dust balls on video. It did however have no problem capturing you blowing your spittle into the din plug, both on audio and video.
A/V cables worked fine but I still need RGB, S-video is not good enough. Still have all the games.
Of course the AV cable worked fine. And it wasn't dusty. Its a bit hard/impossible to get large balls of dust in the din when it spent the majority of its life being plugged directly into the system, or in a zip baggie, or wrapped in bubble wrap during transport. As with all things, I tested it before I shipped the system out and recorded a video of it running multiple games just in case you decided to break the thing on arrive (Glad I did. You manhandled the thing like a idiot in your video. I can only imagine how you treat it off camera...)
(take a good look, I bet this a$$hole will kill the thing in a year, two years max, and I will laugh when no one here volunteers to fix it for him)
Concerning the games you still have, who cares? S-video not good enough? Again, who cares? I wonder how many people here will be willing to restore the RGB out for you after you exposed yourself so stupidly on this thread? Maybe you can have your pops to it for you in-between programming spy satellites. Hope he can replace your laser too after you kill it on your Taiwanese junk short strategy warez you burned off.
I suggest you play some more MD games and really see what the system can do.
This is a pretty idiotic statement coming from you considering I'm one of the few to finalize the S-video mod for the Genesis 1 and X-Eye, let alone figure out the region mod on the Majesco Model 2.
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?159741-Genesis-2-Model-MK-1451-how-to-do-region-mod&p=2174693&viewfull=1#post2174693http://home.comcast.net/~amakusa666/PC-ENGINE-HELL-SONY-CX1145-MOD.htmYeah, that was me, so you can f*ck off Mr. I've done nothing but spent my time collecting mah romz&iso and being a f*cking no nuthin poser on teh forums. I have plenty of experience with the Genesis and Mega Drive library. That has been made a abundantly clear over the years Mr.
Borderline Poser Gamer Personality Disorder.
You guys keep asking about my father so I'll let you know.
No, we didn't. Not really at all, but hey, waste more of your own time talking about pops.
more rambling and other made up shit to make pops sound important, cause I really think someone here cares
No one cares. Really.
Back to the PCE, released November 1986? Is that true?
You got google. f*cking use it poser.
