Author Topic: Turbo/PCE/Genesis/SNES RGB to Component Video (YPbPr) Mod Chip Now For Sale!!!  (Read 5880 times)

xelement5x

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Just bought one of these chips and can't wait for it to get here to try making a Genesis component cable.  I'll need 3, 1k resistors right, is is possible to give you a bit of extra cash to get them shipped with the board?
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Oh man, I just shipped out the boards to you. I still need my web guy to add a drop down option for the genni & SNES.
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Lol, no problem.  You're just too customer oriented and ship stuff out fast! 

I'm sure I can get them elsewhere, I meant to ask sooner but got sidetracked.  :D
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My web guy have added a drop down selection for the different systems this board currently works with. More systems to be tested and added later.
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I was trying to purchase one of these Component boards from your website but there is no option to ship to Canada. Do you ship to Canada?

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Sure, shipping to Canada shouldn't be that much more.
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Yeah I like the board you've created and it seems easy enough for me to tap the expansion port (I'd put this in my CD Dock). I'm just wondering if RGB is significantly better picture wise than component. Like if composite is worst, then Svideo, then Component and then RGB. Unfortunately pictures on the internet usually don't do what everyone is seeing on screen in person justice.

I know that you can't answer the question personally not having done an RGB mod, but would be interesting to get someone's take that have seen both.



As far as I can tell, this (like many questions) is a very subjective answer.  However, the most common answer I've seen is "YPbPr and RGB are basically interchangeable for most people's perceptions", meaning that while RGB may in theory be a touch better, the average human eye won't be able to tell the difference.  I know I can't tell a difference with any pictures I've seen (which you seem to intimate is the same with you -- I also don't have any RGB or scart connections to test), and I know I CAN tell a difference going from S-Video to Component on my various systems (some more so than others depending on how good the S-Video was).

Take that for what you will, but I for one am happy getting things into YPbPr rather than monkeying with converters that are bound to add lag in an effort to turn RGB into HDMI (since there's no real other way to use pure RGB without finding a PVM or something).

That reminds me, I really need to send turbokon my Jaguar so he can test that one out :D

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Yeah I like the board you've created and it seems easy enough for me to tap the expansion port (I'd put this in my CD Dock). I'm just wondering if RGB is significantly better picture wise than component. Like if composite is worst, then Svideo, then Component and then RGB. Unfortunately pictures on the internet usually don't do what everyone is seeing on screen in person justice.

I know that you can't answer the question personally not having done an RGB mod, but would be interesting to get someone's take that have seen both.



As far as I can tell, this (like many questions) is a very subjective answer.  However, the most common answer I've seen is "YPbPr and RGB are basically interchangeable for most people's perceptions", meaning that while RGB may in theory be a touch better, the average human eye won't be able to tell the difference.  I know I can't tell a difference with any pictures I've seen (which you seem to intimate is the same with you -- I also don't have any RGB or scart connections to test), and I know I CAN tell a difference going from S-Video to Component on my various systems (some more so than others depending on how good the S-Video was).

Take that for what you will, but I for one am happy getting things into YPbPr rather than monkeying with converters that are bound to add lag in an effort to turn RGB into HDMI (since there's no real other way to use pure RGB without finding a PVM or something).

That reminds me, I really need to send turbokon my Jaguar so he can test that one out :D

well put
any TV using HDMI is using component encoded video anyway
if the tv supports tint/hue/brightness/contrast adjustments its transcoding to component anyway
so rarely except on PVM's do you ever get pure RGB video paths anyway

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I had to add a disclaimer to the front of this thread.
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Bump:)
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I wanted to give some feedback in this thread. I had turbokon do some work to my PCE Duo.

In particular he did the following:
[ul][li]Install component video output - using built-in component jacks[/li][li]Install region mod with rocker switch[/li][li]Install power LED[/li][li]Do complete cap replacement[/li][/ul]The work turned out wonderfully. My duo had terrible audio issues, and had to warm up before I would get any CD audio. Now it works 100%. The region mod works perfectly too.

The video output is amazing. It simply can't compare to stock composite. The video is just as clear as using an emulator!

The picture quality below isn't perfect since I took the pictures with my phone. The third picture (NEC/Hudson) really shows how incredibly clear the picture quality is. The middle photo shows the component jacks (in the back) and the power LED.

 
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Is there anyone out there who would like to create an install guide for the Genesis & SNES for me in exchange for free component video boards?


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Is there anyone out there who would like to create an install guide for the Genesis & SNES for me in exchange for free component video boards?


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I'm working on building a cable with mine off the AV port in the back so that I don't actually have to drill holes in my Genesis, not sure if that qualifies but I'll try and snap pictures as I go through it all.
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Yeah, that could be an option for peeps who don't want to drill into their systems.


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Yeah I like the board you've created and it seems easy enough for me to tap the expansion port (I'd put this in my CD Dock). I'm just wondering if RGB is significantly better picture wise than component. Like if composite is worst, then Svideo, then Component and then RGB. Unfortunately pictures on the internet usually don't do what everyone is seeing on screen in person justice.

I know that you can't answer the question personally not having done an RGB mod, but would be interesting to get someone's take that have seen both.



As far as I can tell, this (like many questions) is a very subjective answer.  However, the most common answer I've seen is "YPbPr and RGB are basically interchangeable for most people's perceptions", meaning that while RGB may in theory be a touch better, the average human eye won't be able to tell the difference.  I know I can't tell a difference with any pictures I've seen (which you seem to intimate is the same with you -- I also don't have any RGB or scart connections to test), and I know I CAN tell a difference going from S-Video to Component on my various systems (some more so than others depending on how good the S-Video was).

Take that for what you will, but I for one am happy getting things into YPbPr rather than monkeying with converters that are bound to add lag in an effort to turn RGB into HDMI (since there's no real other way to use pure RGB without finding a PVM or something).

That reminds me, I really need to send turbokon my Jaguar so he can test that one out :D

Just wanted to chime in about this.  Component Video (YPbPr) and RGB are both lossless formats.  They're exactly the same quality. 

The difference between the two is that YPbPr uses algebra to calculate the color signal to save on bandwidth, while RGB just carries the signal in 3 channels.  Component video takes luma for black and white, and takes Red - Luma and Blue - Luma to calculate the green. 

So there's no difference in quality.  There may be slight color differentiation going on however, this is due to the mixing when converting RGB -> Component, but the video quality and clarity are exactly the same.