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You should be able to use the same modification to the component video board on the N64.




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You should be able to use the same modification to the component video board on the N64.




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Lol, after seeing that diagram and how simple it would be to put one of your boards in I'm tempted to do it, except I was never a fan of the N64, I do have a spare I bought at a yard sale for $5 though.

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I've tried the component board with a Genesis and I must say that this PCB gives incredible results!

I don't know if it is of any interest to any of you here but I'm actually trying to hook up the component board to different systems. Right now, I'm trying to do it with a Dreamcast. No success so far. I get a picture, but the colors are off and washed out. I'll update when I get better results.

I will eventually also try this with a Saturn and an N64.

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I've tried the component board with a Genesis and I must say that this PCB gives incredible results!

I don't know if it is of any interest to any of you here but I'm actually trying to hook up the component board to different systems. Right now, I'm trying to do it with a Dreamcast. No success so far. I get a picture, but the colors are off and washed out. I'll update when I get better results.

I will eventually also try this with a Saturn and an N64.


Why bother with the Dreamcast?  Just get the VGA outbox and enjoy much better grafx.  Also the Saturn has RGB out already so just a Scart lead and a scart converter.


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Why bother with the Dreamcast?  Just get the VGA outbox and enjoy much better grafx.  Also the Saturn has RGB out already so just a Scart lead and a scart converter.

Somebody actually asked me to mod his Dreamcast with a component output because the TV he uses for gaming doesn't have a VGA input.

Also, some people prefer to have component right out of their systems instead of having to use an external RGB to component or HDMI converter/upscaler.

Besides, the PCE can rather easily be modded to output RGB and then be hooked to a converter/upscaler. Yet, people still find interest in the RGB to component mod...

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Don't N64 need an amplifier circuit because the RGB signals is weak?
Is there any noticeable difference using a RGB cable on SNES and Genesis and modding them both with this component board?
Is the pic quality is better using the component board compared to using the consoles' native RGB cable output?
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Sensato Kuro

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Don't N64 need an amplifier circuit because the RGB signals is weak?
Is there any noticeable difference using a RGB cable on SNES and Genesis and modding them both with this component board?
Is the pic quality is better using the component board compared to using the consoles' native RGB cable output?

Yeah, as far as I know, the N64's RGB does need to be amplified. The picture will be too dark if not amplified. there might be some models which do not need RGB amplification though, I'm not 100% sure about that.

I haven't done a side by side comparison but from what I've seen, I'd say that the component video quality with Turbokon's RGB to component PCB is as good as it gets. In the end, I believe that it all depends of what your setup is because the PCB will work only with a flat screen that has a component input that is 240p-compatible or a bulky CRT.

If you use an upscaler like the XRGB-3, I don't think there is any interest in converting the RGB signal to component before feeding it to the upscaler.

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Why bother with the Dreamcast?  Just get the VGA outbox and enjoy much better grafx.  Also the Saturn has RGB out already so just a Scart lead and a scart converter.

Somebody actually asked me to mod his Dreamcast with a component output because the TV he uses for gaming doesn't have a VGA input.

Also, some people prefer to have component right out of their systems instead of having to use an external RGB to component or HDMI converter/upscaler.

Besides, the PCE can rather easily be modded to output RGB and then be hooked to a converter/upscaler. Yet, people still find interest in the RGB to component mod...


I'm sorry buddy I didn't mean to harp on your work.  I was hoping to have my DUO R Modded to component.  Right now is S-Video but my TV loves Component on these old machines.  Any chance on getting an NES to do component?  Like my top loader?


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I've tried the component board with a Genesis and I must say that this PCB gives incredible results!

I don't know if it is of any interest to any of you here but I'm actually trying to hook up the component board to different systems. Right now, I'm trying to do it with a Dreamcast. No success so far. I get a picture, but the colors are off and washed out. I'll update when I get better results.

I will eventually also try this with a Saturn and an N64.


Hey sensato glad you finally installed the boards. As for the dreamcast, may just need different resistors value at rgb input side to counter offset voltage. What values I don't know, thesteve will need to chime in.


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I'm sorry buddy I didn't mean to harp on your work.  I was hoping to have my DUO R Modded to component.  Right now is S-Video but my TV loves Component on these old machines.  Any chance on getting an NES to do component?  Like my top loader?
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To RGB mod the Nes you had to purchase a playchoice board and put its PPU on the Nes. Someone is now making something to do the same thing. http://etim.net.au/nesrgb/  At $100 its cheaper than the Playchoice board(~$250). Some people on NeoGaf were talking about buying some but I haven't seen anyone talking about results yet.

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I'm sorry buddy I didn't mean to harp on your work.  I was hoping to have my DUO R Modded to component.  Right now is S-Video but my TV loves Component on these old machines.  Any chance on getting an NES to do component?  Like my top loader?


To RGB mod the Nes you had to purchase a playchoice board and put its PPU on the Nes. Someone is now making something to do the same thing. http://etim.net.au/nesrgb/  At $100 its cheaper than the Playchoice board(~$250). Some people on NeoGaf were talking about buying some but I haven't seen anyone talking about results yet.



Outstanding, it works in the Front Loader as well.  I'd love that even more.  I have to get this modded!


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I've tried the component board with a Genesis and I must say that this PCB gives incredible results!

I don't know if it is of any interest to any of you here but I'm actually trying to hook up the component board to different systems. Right now, I'm trying to do it with a Dreamcast. No success so far. I get a picture, but the colors are off and washed out. I'll update when I get better results.

I will eventually also try this with a Saturn and an N64.


Hey sensato glad you finally installed the boards. As for the dreamcast, may just need different resistors value at rgb input side to counter offset voltage. What values I don't know, thesteve will need to chime in.


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i would need to look at the signals on the DC
the resistors are to lower the RGB to match what the PCE puts out

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I've tried the component board with a Genesis and I must say that this PCB gives incredible results!

I don't know if it is of any interest to any of you here but I'm actually trying to hook up the component board to different systems. Right now, I'm trying to do it with a Dreamcast. No success so far. I get a picture, but the colors are off and washed out. I'll update when I get better results.

I will eventually also try this with a Saturn and an N64.


Hey sensato glad you finally installed the boards. As for the dreamcast, may just need different resistors value at rgb input side to counter offset voltage. What values I don't know, thesteve will need to chime in.


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i would need to look at the signals on the DC
the resistors are to lower the RGB to match what the PCE puts out


I tried with 1K pots instead of the resistors and I can't seem to find anything that works. The screen is actually black and white most of the time (except for the Dreamcast boot screen which looks perfect). I plan to film everything to give a better idea of what's going on...

I could scope the Dreamcast's RGB signal but I wouldn't really know what to do with what I'll find.

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I've tried the component board with a Genesis and I must say that this PCB gives incredible results!

I don't know if it is of any interest to any of you here but I'm actually trying to hook up the component board to different systems. Right now, I'm trying to do it with a Dreamcast. No success so far. I get a picture, but the colors are off and washed out. I'll update when I get better results.

I will eventually also try this with a Saturn and an N64.


Hey sensato glad you finally installed the boards. As for the dreamcast, may just need different resistors value at rgb input side to counter offset voltage. What values I don't know, thesteve will need to chime in.


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i would need to look at the signals on the DC
the resistors are to lower the RGB to match what the PCE puts out


I tried with 1K pots instead of the resistors and I can't seem to find anything that works. The screen is actually black and white most of the time (except for the Dreamcast boot screen which looks perfect). I plan to film everything to give a better idea of what's going on...

I could scope the Dreamcast's RGB signal but I wouldn't really know what to do with what I'll find.

Could it be that you've got it in VGA mode and the game you're trying doesn't support it, so it's in some weird, confused 15K mode rather than staying in 31K mode?

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Could it be that you've got it in VGA mode and the game you're trying doesn't support it, so it's in some weird, confused 15K mode rather than staying in 31K mode?

I should actually be in 15K RGB mode. I've grounded only one of the mode select pins. I'll have to check which one I grounded because I thought any of the two would give the same result.

I've tested the mod with different games and I get black and whites screens with all of them.

In order to avoid further pollution of this topic (which is supposed to be about selling the PCBs ;)), I've created a new topic in the TG/PCE repair/mod section...

https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=15958.0