Author Topic: Playing Ys 4 with english patch....FINALLY (Read 1053 times)

NightWolve · « **Reply #30 on:** April 08, 2006, 06:49:39 PM »

Quote from: "Daedalus"

It took me soo damn long to get this damn patch to work right CDRwin just wouldnt work right for me, finally with mero it came out flawless. I got it right abotu two weeks ago but I refuse to play it. I just got Ys 3 and I am stuck on Darm in ys book 2.

Quote from: "D-Lite"

Someone sent me the patched Ys IV but it doesn't work.

I wish someone would provide me the opportunity to get a working one ...............

You and anybody else that's ever had difficulty ripping a PC-Engine/TG-16 CD will have a nifty tool at your disposal very soon. I'm working on a program tentatively called "TurboRip" and I'm about to release version 1.00 very soon. It will probably be my last gift to the PCE community, although if it becomes popular enough, I might return to it someday to make a GUI version (this will be commandline). For a long description, I made a post about it here if anyone wants to take a look. Basically, TurboRip will rip all PC-Engine/TG-16 CD discs perfectly to an ISO/WAV/CUE image format which among other things will allow easy patching in the case of Xak III or Ys IV. I have options to prepare the image for use on Sony's PSP even as one of its many extra pluses! So with an ISO/WAV/CUE image, you can then burn that using whatever burning software works best with your system, whether it's Alcohol 120%, Ahead Nero, CDRWIN, Fireburner, or CloneCD, etc. All of those support the CUE format well enough.

Anyway, I'll make a post on this forum to let you guys know when it's ready. Keep on the lookout for that announcement which should be imminent. I wanna get as many people testing it with original PC-Engine discs to see how my CD-ROM devices it supports. You can inform me if you have trouble and it might be possible to see about fixing some issue. I have Squaresoft74 and Dave Shadoff testing it for me as we speak, and I've fixed quite a few issues already. Among some of the features are being able to detect and read from an external CD-ROM device connected to your system via Firewire or USB.

Here're two screenshots of it in action using an original disc of Cosmic Fantasy 2:

It will account for PREGAPs when it comes to track type transitions, which is what causes trouble with such Mixed-Mode discs if you try to dump them on a track by track basis. One of the main reasons I wanted to create such a program was because if the dubs for Ys IV were ever finished, you would need the image in ISO/WAV/CUE form, and you would just need to replace the Japanese wave files with the English ones I would provide. It's easy enough to dump an image to BIN/CUE, but such a format is not suitable for patching the waves within it. It also results in varying sizes whereas in this case, every data track is correctly dumped to the same size on EVERYONE's PC, so there wouldn't be any inconsistencies say if you wanna patch a particular data track.

Anyway, that's the gist of it. I talked about it more here as I mentioned, if you wanna learn more details about it. It works on one of Squaresoft's DVD-RW devices, but not the other, so I've delayed releasing it in the hopes I can make it more compatible. Plus I have to finish the ReadMe. Your drive basically must be modern (later than 1996 preferably), and support the MMC-1 standard. Its compatibility with CD/DVD readers will be as good if not better than David Michel's MagicEngine. It will also extract its own ASPI layer and use that by default, but you can provide a parameter to force it to load the usual WNAPSI32.dll provided by Adaptec or Nero, if your system operates better with that layer. Also, the MP3 encoding is done using the latest copy of the LAME MP3 encoder if you use an option that requests MP3 audio extraction.

Quote from: "Keranu"

Ehem, http://www.lazerdorks.org/stunningarticles/ysiiiduel/index.html .

Yeah, I agree with that. Turbo CD wins. I played the SNES version and I would've expected much better graphics for a SNES cart compared to Turbo CD, but they're almost the same. And so then when you take the Turbo CD's cinemas, awesome soundtracks, etc. into account, it's enough to place it above the other ports in my book. Oh, yeah, good job on being an Ys nerd. You actually went and wrote a review comparing them side by side.

Even I couldn't do that...

Ninja Spirit · « **Reply #31 on:** April 08, 2006, 07:23:08 PM »

Grrr I want CD image...now!

Keranu · « **Reply #32 on:** April 08, 2006, 07:54:43 PM »

Sorry about that nasty post edit, Nightwolve! All fixed now, thank god!!

Quote from: "Nightwolve"

Yeah, I agree with that. Turbo CD wins. I played the SNES version and I would've expected much better graphics for a SNES cart compared to Turbo CD, but they're almost the same. And so then when you take the Turbo CD's cinemas, awesome soundtracks, etc. into account, it's enough to place it above the other ports in my book. Oh, yeah, good job on being on Ys nerd. You actually went and wrote a review comparing them side by side. Even I couldn't do that...

Haha, thanks a lot

nodtveidt · « **Reply #33 on:** April 08, 2006, 11:36:52 PM »

Nightwolve, that would be great. pcerip.exe doesn't work on my cdrom so to have one that's a bit more flexible would be very nice.

Daedalus · « **Reply #34 on:** April 09, 2006, 12:08:02 AM »

I have a ripped iso of the english patched Ys IV ( working of course ) and no place to host it....if anone wants to host it for me I'll be glad to share

NightWolve · « **Reply #35 on:** April 09, 2006, 05:09:42 AM »

Quote from: "nodtveidt"

Nightwolve, that would be great. pcerip.exe doesn't work on my cdrom so to have one that's a bit more flexible would be very nice.

Yeah, in fact, pcerip was one of my inspirations for this. As was cddissect, but they all fall short. pcerip only does data tracks.... Well, thanks a bunch, but if you know how to rip data, you know how to rip audio, so why not have had that too? Cddissect was closer to what I wanted, but yet another obstacle to getting wave output! It was built for a specific purpose to create a ISO/MP3/CUE file set only for use for the HUGO-X emulator on an XBOX. It did not have an option to extract the wave directly. It only outputs MP3s... I was thinking of asking the author for his source code, but I just decided not to and when I got the motivation again to work on this, I did the research and probably wouldn't have made as good a tool had someone else's source code been handed to me. Not that it would've impeded me, but it could've sent me in another direction rather than the one where I did most of the research for MMC/SCSI/ASPI myself, so now I know more of what's going on with regards to communicating with CD/DVD devices having to stumble through it.

The only good thing that'll be left of pcerip when this is released is its name which I kind of wanted.

I was thinking of going with "PowerRip" or something, but I wanted some reference to the game system/platform in the name, so it was either go with "turborip," "tg16rip," or even "necrip." Heh.

Anyway, I gave Keranu a copy to test for me, and I spent some 6 hours with Squaresoft74 fixing some final bugs. It works for him entirely now on all drives, so I'm confident in making the first public release after some touch ups and a ReadMe. It won't be long now.

akamichi · « **Reply #36 on:** April 09, 2006, 05:21:12 AM »

Quote from: "NightWolve"

You and anybody else that's ever had difficulty ripping a PC-Engine/TG-16 CD will have a nifty tool at your disposal very soon. I'm working on a program tentatively called "TurboRip" and I'm about to release version 1.00 very soon.

Sounds cool NightWolve. I tried to do the same thing close to a year ago but I couldn't get consistent results. Sounds like you solved that issue. I did get it working enough to be able to use your Xak III and YsIV patches though.

I'm definitely looking forward to trying your prog!

NightWolve · « **Reply #37 on:** April 09, 2006, 06:30:32 AM »

Quote from: "akamichi"

Quote from: "NightWolve"
You and anybody else that's ever had difficulty ripping a PC-Engine/TG-16 CD will have a nifty tool at your disposal very soon. I'm working on a program tentatively called "TurboRip" and I'm about to release version 1.00 very soon.

Sounds cool NightWolve. I tried to do the same thing close to a year ago but I couldn't get consistent results. Sounds like you solved that issue. I did get it working enough to be able to use your Xak III and YsIV patches though.

I'm definitely looking forward to trying your prog!

Ah, I remember reading your posts where you mentioned this. I'd be glad to send you the candidate release copy right now if you pm me your email address or update your profile with it. I was looking for it in your profile, but it's not there.

akamichi · « **Reply #38 on:** April 09, 2006, 01:40:19 PM »

Quote from: "NightWolve"

Ah, I remember reading your posts where you mentioned this. I'd be glad to send you the candidate release copy right now if you pm me your email address or update your profile with it. I was looking for it in your profile, but it's not there.

Cool. I was just about to update my profile then I noticed you had already sent me a PM.

I've got about 4 different drives I can try it out on. I'll let you know how it goes.
Thanks!

pixeljunkie · « **Reply #39 on:** April 10, 2006, 03:06:03 AM »

awesome news nightwolve, this thread ended up being awesome!

Thanks again for your work. I finished Ys 4 saturday night...was sad it was over. Best time I've had on a game in a long time.

NightWolve · « **Reply #40 on:** April 20, 2006, 01:44:13 AM »

Quote from: "nodtveidt"

Nightwolve, that would be great. pcerip.exe doesn't work on my cdrom so to have one that's a bit more flexible would be very nice.

I've gone public with it if you haven't yet noticed. Check this thread for details. Lemme know if it works on the CDROM you're referring to where pcerip does not.