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Tatsujin

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Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« on: October 23, 2013, 03:56:46 PM »
Black tiger kinda brought me on this idea with the sapphire statement in the other thread:

We already have Sapphire out performing any other 16-bit console game for number of sprite frames. It's a no-brainer.

So what do you love about certain PCE games that you can easily use to argue its undeniable superiority against other hardwares of the same era?
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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2013, 04:32:24 PM »
RUN + SELECT
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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2013, 04:58:46 PM »
RUN + SELECT


WORD..altough i would have loved to see something like this on the screen before it was executed:



 :P
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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2013, 08:05:39 PM »
Never had any arguments and at this point I really don't care about which obsolete console is better than other...

but the color palette was an easy conversation starter!

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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 10:12:29 PM »
RUN + SELECT


WORD..altough i would have loved to see something like this on the screen before it was executed:



 :P


Yeah, I was thinking:

RUN + SELECT brings up a prompt...hit RUN + SELECT again to confirm reset.

 
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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 11:05:32 PM »
RUN + SELECT


WORD..altough i would have loved to see something like this on the screen before it was executed:



 :P


Yeah, I was thinking:

RUN + SELECT brings up a prompt...hit RUN + SELECT again to confirm reset.

 


perfect!!

just what I always wanted 
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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2013, 03:00:09 AM »
I believe that the PCE is the only 16-bit console which can run six good quality and long sound samples at once. The SNES sound chip's memory is supposed to be a pretty restrictive bottleneck. So the SNES is good at piecing together music from short, small sized samples and can do fewer larger longer samples. But if you're narrowing your view to the strength of the PCE, then I think that the PCE is best at running good quality sound samples.
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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2013, 03:05:23 AM »
I think it comes down to certain developers really having a great eye for color, design and gameplay.

Cut scenes wise, just about anything from Telnet and Falcom is mind blowing.  In graphics, some of the games developed by FACE had some really impressive sprites. Cross Wiber and Renny Blaster come to mind.

 

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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2013, 03:05:49 AM »
I definitely preferred the sound, even over SNES.

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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2013, 03:23:53 AM »
I believe that the PCE is the only 16-bit console which can run six good quality and long sound samples at once.

The Neo-Geo can.  6 channels at 12 bits, 18.5Khz each, 1 additional channel at 16 bits with varying sampling rate.  Limited only by the size of sample ROMs.

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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2013, 03:27:20 AM »
The Neo-Geo can also lick my AES
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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2013, 03:59:16 AM »
I believe that the PCE is the only 16-bit console which can run six good quality and long sound samples at once.

The Neo-Geo can.  6 channels at 12 bits, 18.5Khz each, 1 additional channel at 16 bits with varying sampling rate.  Limited only by the size of sample ROMs.

Black Tiger should've specified:  The only 16-bit console that wasn't overpriced and obnoxious.


I think the colors of the PCE games kick the piss out of both the Genesis and SNES.  While you will often see nicer layering in a Genesis game, you will almost never see better colors.

and when you do, they're dithered as f*ck.    See: Ristar.



I also prefer the PCE's sound over the Genesis and SNES.   

Overall, between the card format, small formfactor console, controller that resembles an NES one but is better, and all this other stuff, it's kind of clear the thing kicks ass.


... too bad they forgot to bring the really kickass games to the USA.

[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2013, 04:12:35 AM »
The CD unit was 400 bones, that was quite expensive back in the day. If I recall, the console it self was about $200 which was about reg. price for consoles back then.

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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2013, 05:25:27 AM »
The CD unit was 400 bones, that was quite expensive back in the day. If I recall, the console it self was about $200 which was about reg. price for consoles back then.

The AES was what, 650$?  with one packin game that wasn't really that fun unless you like Nam or Baseball.

I'd rather drop the cash on a TGCD.  Any day.


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Re: Superiorities of PCE games vs. the others?
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2013, 05:31:18 AM »
It's really hard for me to argue, period.  The PCE/TG-16 to me is the best system in the world.  Way ahead of its time on many fronts.  However, I also really love other systems and arcade games I grew up with.

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