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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2013, 06:02:06 AM »
Knowing the history of these forums, a majority of folks will go with Lords of Thunder as the better game.
My guess it will will be a close battle, seems like there's a lot of GOT fans too.    :D

GOT is currently out in front and looks like it could be the winner.

I still think W/LOT is the better game.  :D


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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2013, 11:02:34 AM »
Gate Of Thunder has more solid gameplay.
Rover nailed it.

Graphics, music, difficultly, and character are important, but gameplay makes the game. Lords is perfect for what it is, but outside of the strategy of picking levels and shopping, the gameplay is nothing more than gluing a thumb to the trigger button and navigating bullet hell for level after level on the D-pad (not that I'm complaining).

GoT has a much more advanced control scheme with its split-second weapon changes, reverse fire, and speed select. Not only are these genuinely useful functions, but they can be executed quickly without messing up the elegance of the two-button controller.

I love both games (graphics more on LoT, music more on GoT), but nothing beats switching to wave, reversing, and blowing the crap out of those ships that try to surround you on level 4 of Gate of Thunder

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"I love both games (graphics more on LoT, music more on GoT), but nothing beats switching to wave, reversing, and blowing the crap out of those ships that try to surround you on level 4 of Gate of Thunder"

Lord of Thunder has the more interesting graphics and the collecting crystals to buy things at the shop is great. The End bosses are massive.

But, the level design of LoT is pretty standard and the bosses don't have as much strategy as GoT has (In my opinions anyway). Also, something has to be said about the level progression of GoT. Each level just builds perfectly on the previous. That is lost in the "Choose a Level" route that LoT too.

I think that Gate of Thunder is not only the winner of this contest but I place it very high in the list of ALL shmups. It just has it all.
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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2013, 10:46:31 AM »
Any tips for LOT? This is the hardest shooter I have ever played!!!! Is it like mega man... certain armor works best for certain planet?

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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2013, 10:49:30 AM »
Any tips for LOT? This is the hardest shooter I have ever played!!!! Is it like mega man... certain armor works best for certain planet?

Yes, they're all weak against Earth armor.
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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2013, 09:04:34 AM »
Crack - thanks!

78 - Earth Armor helps, but mostly you just have to play the game a bunch. I was also shocked by LoT's seeming difficultly at first, but the challenge drops once you master a level and learn how to allocate funds.
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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2013, 10:22:19 AM »
Yeah, even WoT is mainly reaction based, it also requires some memorizing to be able to beat levels without much damage.
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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2013, 11:12:36 AM »
Oh god, Gate by a country mile

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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2013, 01:04:41 AM »
I still maintain that GOT is the easier game, with W/LOT the difficulty curve is pitched to perfection and is more of a challenge.

GOT is a AAA title no doubt but W/LOT is the best of the best.
Anyways it appears the forum disagrees with me as it looks like GOT is the winner.
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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2013, 04:25:08 AM »
I still maintain that GOT is the easier game, with W/LOT the difficulty curve is pitched to perfection and is more of a challenge.

I agree that GoT is easier, but I found the difficulty curve in LoT to be quite inconsistent. GoT had a very nice gradual build in challenge and the last level and boss were very hard, but by no means impossible. LoT was not nearly as gradual and would just randomly hop around from easy to hard to really hard, back to regular old hard, etc...
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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2013, 12:45:05 PM »
OK... I just got LOT last week but I have to say.... Why is it SO F'ING HARD!!!!???? I'll take GOT or Blazing Blazers any day. LOT soundtrack wins hands down though.

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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2013, 08:47:45 AM »
So GOT won this battle, thinking of sticking GOT up against a new opponent for the next versus battle, going cross platform this time.
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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2013, 10:31:39 AM »
Lords of Thunder all the way. It's ranked up there for greatest SHMUMP of all time right by Ikaruga, and Radiant Silvergun.

I'm surprised no one mentioned the music?

I like the way the game gives you choices. I like the freedom to play as I choose. I also like that there is a shop system, and that you don't simply die in one hit like in most other SHMUMPS.

Finally, I like the originality. Gate of Thunder feels like 99% of other shooters. I feel like originality alone is enough to give Lords of Thunder a good head start on any shooter past or present. Outer Space, and military based shooters are played out.

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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #42 on: November 26, 2013, 12:50:30 PM »
Seriously Dude.  I'm calling a slight foul on your use of SHMUP  as SHMUMP.  drop the second M.

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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #43 on: November 26, 2013, 01:28:03 PM »
Seriously Dude.  I'm calling a slight foul on your use of SHMUP  as SHMUMP.  drop the second M.

See thread here:  http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=13655.30


Or better yet, don't shmup at all. :wink:

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Re: Gate of Thunder Vs Winds/Lords of thunder - which game is better?
« Reply #44 on: November 26, 2013, 01:43:27 PM »
They're all SHTTRS. [-(

Funny they use that one on the Toilet forums too. :)
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