Dracula X (PC Engine) Vs Super Castlevania IV (SNES) - which game is better?

[Tatsujin]

Any top all list without dracula x as #1  is garbage

[Nando]

^ I play the GBA games on my TV. There is so much detail in the backgrounds in Castlevania the first GBA one. Have yet to play the others.

I emulated this on a phone with an OLED..OMG THE COLORS!!!! wish the GameCube GBA adapter didn't wash out the color range.

[Black Tiger]

Any top 5 list without x68000 Akumajou Dracula in it somewhere is garbage

What about a console game list?

[Otaking]

I'm in the boat where I think these two games are really close to 'perfect' castlevania games.  I love the control scheme of Simon in CV4 with the whip ability and directional options.  I think that gameplay and level variations keep it separate from DracX so much that I have respect for each game.

If I made my top 3 Castlevania games it would go-
1a- Rondo
1b Castlevania IV
3 - Castlevania III
Depending on my mood, sometimes while playing Super Castlevania I think to myself- 'Damn this is the finest Castlevania game ever created!'...

I first played CV4 in 1992 when I picked it up for SNES, but never played Rondo until 1997 when I finally acquired it for the Duo.  That 5 year gap had me playing CV4 when I was an impressionable 13 years old and I hit adulthood (a mere 18) when I finally got teh OBEY 'Vania realm.

This might skew my opinion on the games a bit, but I still usually dub Dracula X as the best Castlevania game of all times.  If I had played it when it first came out, who knows how much it would have blown my mind of minds!!

Also, I really do enjoy Bloodlines and would rank it somewhere after the original NES game but slightly better than Symphony.  Somewhere around the X68k/Chronicles and Castlevania Adventure Rebirth games. 

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Finally! Bravo! I totally agree with everything you said except my top 3 would be different. 

If I made my top 3 Castlevania games it would go-
1a- Rondo
1b Castlevania IV
3 - Castlevania III

If I made my top 3 Castlevania games it would go-
1a - Rondo
1b - Castlevania IV
3 - SOTN

I first played CV4 in 1992 when I picked it up for SNES, but never played Rondo until 1997 when I finally acquired it for the Duo.  That 5 year gap had me playing CV4 when I was an impressionable 13 years old and I hit adulthood (a mere 18) when I finally got teh OBEY 'Vania realm.

This might skew my opinion on the games a bit, but I still usually dub Dracula X as the best Castlevania game of all times.  If I had played it when it first came out, who knows how much it would have blown my mind of minds!!

I played both games when they were released 

[Otaking]

I've thought of my next game versus battle, might be quite controversial, good to stir things up on the forum. 

I tried to see if there'd been a Rondo/SOTN thread and couldn't find one. I'm surprised. I guess it's just not as fun as comparing Rondo to an older, cart-based launch title.

SOTN is definitely in my top3. And oh, the music...

I thought of doing a versus battle of Rondo Vs SOTN but decided on IV instead.
I've now thought of the next three versus battles I want to do, I might do Rondo Vs SOTN after that.
 

[Tatsujin]

OMHFUG?!?!? already 6 wrong dudes in here 

[spenoza]

I honestly can't decide. Both are truly great classic 'vania games. They both have excellent strengths and I am happy to replay either one.

[A Black Falcon]

Super Castlevania IV is the best Castlevania game ever made, so it wins.  The better whip was a fantastic idea, and it's a real tragedy that they never brought it back in full.  SCIV also has outstanding graphics too (sure it has slowdown, but it shows the SNES's power.  RoB looks great, but can't do SNES effects.), great music (some of the series' best!), and a lot of levels, all very well-designed, too.  It's also got a hard mode you unlock after beating the game.

Rondo of Blood is an amazing game that I also really like, though.  I don't like playing as Richter much, since he's back to the annoying NES-style whip controls, but Maria is great.  The game is quite a bit shorter than SCIV for a single playthrough, but does have some replay value if you want to find the alternate stages, though it doesn't have a harder difficulty setting, unless you consider Richter as hard mode and Maria as easy mode, but that kind of "hard mode" is an annoying way to do it I think.  The game is a really good game, but it's not quite as good as Super Castlevania IV.  Both games are far, far better than Bloodlines, for sure, though.  Or Dracula XX (SNES).

[Tatsujin]

Super Castlevania IV is the best Castlevania game ever made, so it wins.  The better whip was a fantastic idea, and it's a real tragedy that they never brought it back in full.  SCIV also has outstanding graphics too (sure it has slowdown, but it shows the SNES's power.  RoB looks great, but can't do SNES effects.), great music (some of the series' best!), and a lot of levels, all very well-designed, too.  It's also got a hard mode you unlock after beating the game.

Rondo of Blood is an amazing game that I also really like, though.  I don't like playing as Richter much, since he's back to the annoying NES-style whip controls, but Maria is great.  The game is quite a bit shorter than SCIV for a single playthrough, but does have some replay value if you want to find the alternate stages, though it doesn't have a harder difficulty setting, unless you consider Richter as hard mode and Maria as easy mode, but that kind of "hard mode" is an annoying way to do it I think.  The game is a really good game, but it's not quite as good as Super Castlevania IV.  Both games are far, far better than Bloodlines, for sure, though.  Or Dracula XX (SNES).

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[SuperDeadite]

Super Castlevania IV is the best Castlevania game ever made, so it wins.  The better whip was a fantastic idea, and it's a real tragedy that they never brought it back in full.  SCIV also has outstanding graphics too (sure it has slowdown, but it shows the SNES's power.  RoB looks great, but can't do SNES effects.), great music (some of the series' best!), and a lot of levels, all very well-designed, too.  It's also got a hard mode you unlock after beating the game.

Rondo of Blood is an amazing game that I also really like, though.  I don't like playing as Richter much, since he's back to the annoying NES-style whip controls, but Maria is great.  The game is quite a bit shorter than SCIV for a single playthrough, but does have some replay value if you want to find the alternate stages, though it doesn't have a harder difficulty setting, unless you consider Richter as hard mode and Maria as easy mode, but that kind of "hard mode" is an annoying way to do it I think.  The game is a really good game, but it's not quite as good as Super Castlevania IV.  Both games are far, far better than Bloodlines, for sure, though.  Or Dracula XX (SNES).

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[Otaking]

Both games are far, far better than Bloodlines, for sure, though.  Or Dracula XX (SNES).

truth 

[GohanX]

Bloodlines is awesome.

[Black Tiger]

Bloodlines is awesome.

But it's not on SNES.

[geise]

I love Bloodlines as well.  As for the Dracula X SC IV debate there's things I like about Super Castlevania IV that I wish made it to the Dracula X.  Like others mentioned I was kinda bummed that Dracula X didn't have the diagonal whip.  It really added to the control and game play.  My main reason for loving Dracula X the most is the re-playability.   There are so many secrets to find in the game.   The music is amazing, and the extra special moves are awesome.  SC IV is an awesome game and one of my favorites on the SNES, but compared to Dracula X I get way more enjoyment out of Dracula X.

As for A Black Falcon saying Dracula X doesn't have SNES effects, I had no idea any game on earth had to have SNES effects to be a good/better game.

[A Black Falcon]

Bloodlines is awesome.

Some people say this (mostly at Sega-16), and honestly I don't get it at all.  I thought Bloodlines was a badly disappointing game and isn't even REMOTELY close to SCIV or RoB.  Graphics (okay to bland), music (decent but not as good), length (too short, they tried to make up for this by making the game too hard but that only makes it worse!), difficulty level (this is the ONLY Castlevania game with limited continues, and it's a big problem with levels as long as this games' are!), level designs (as with some other Genesis Konami games, the levels are long but there aren't many of them), graphics (more parallax than RoB aside, they aren't as good), production values, controls (one character can diagonal-whip on the ground but not in the air, and the other is the reverse... jerks!  8-way whip is better!))... all are worse in Bloodlines than either of those other games.  It's an okay game, but compared to SCIV or RoB?  It does not come close, and I think it's clear that it didn't have as much time or budget, as usual for Genesis Konami games (Contra: Hard Corps and Rocket Knight Adventures are the big exceptions to that, but most of the rest...).

I love Bloodlines as well.  As for the Dracula X SC IV debate there's things I like about Super Castlevania IV that I wish made it to the Dracula X.  Like others mentioned I was kinda bummed that Dracula X didn't have the diagonal whip.  It really added to the control and game play.  My main reason for loving Dracula X the most is the re-playability.   There are so many secrets to find in the game.   The music is amazing, and the extra special moves are awesome.  SC IV is an awesome game and one of my favorites on the SNES, but compared to Dracula X I get way more enjoyment out of Dracula X.

As for A Black Falcon saying Dracula X doesn't have SNES effects, I had no idea any game on earth had to have SNES effects to be a good/better game.

What I mean is that in SCIV I happen to like stuff like the mode 7 backgrounds, the times you latch onto a platform with the whip and the room rotates around you, and stuff... Konami apparently didn't, because even SNES Dracula X(X) doesn't have them, but I thought they were nice things to have.  That's what I meant, mostly, in addition to stuff like transparencies and much more use of parallax scrolling than you find in the Turbo CD game; they pushed the Turbo pretty hard and the game looks great, but RoB DOES have a lot less parallax than the SNES or Genesis games (though otherwise RoB looks a lot better than poor Bloodlines).

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