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Tatsujin

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HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« on: December 23, 2013, 02:15:07 AM »
If you had to choose for one of the two media, which would it be?  :)
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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2013, 02:17:06 AM »
I'm just in it for the foam hu card pillows.
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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2013, 02:31:25 AM »
I picked CD because of Winds of Thunder and Dracula X if it wasn't for these two I would of picked HuCards.
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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2013, 02:36:21 AM »
HuCards. Durable, make great shurikens, and have greats like Legendary Axe, Street Fighter II, Bomberman 93, 94,  Parasol Stars, Side Arms, Galaga 88, Bonk...

I could go on all day.


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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2013, 02:42:24 AM »
I'd go for huCard, if it was cheap(er) in comparison to CDs.
If what I've read is true regarding pcengine access to data on the huCards (and I don't know any better coz am le dumb) larger capacity would have meant no reason for CDRom2 anyway. (SFII)
Apart from fancy cinemas and redbook audio CDrom2 never added anything that couldn't have been done on a huCard, memory permitting - voila, le Arcade CDrom System Card.

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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2013, 02:45:23 AM »
CD for redbook tunes and being cheap to make.
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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2013, 03:27:51 AM »
I'd go for huCard, if it was cheap(er) in comparison to CDs.
If what I've read is true regarding pcengine access to data on the huCards (and I don't know any better coz am le dumb) larger capacity would have meant no reason for CDRom2 anyway. (SFII)
Apart from fancy cinemas and redbook audio CDrom2 never added anything that couldn't have been done on a huCard, memory permitting - voila, le Arcade CDrom System Card.


HuCards weren't cheaper.

CD games have the kind of content you rarely or can't find in cart games for the time. Many games have greater variety and are designed differently because of different priorities/restrictions than cart games. They also have adpcm samples and streaming.

HuCards were limited bitd by the available rom sizes and pricier fast memory the PCE uses. It all fine and well to say that if 16-bit gen consoles were never replaced, that we might have a bank switched 1GB HuCard game today, but that goes into a fantasy realm which would also permit a 1GB System Card for "GIGA Card CD" games.

Even if HuCards could do everything CD games do except CD musuc, voice acting and adpcm  -that still makes them inferior.

No matter what, CD trumps HuCard.
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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2013, 04:31:29 AM »
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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2013, 05:59:21 AM »
Sound engines can also eat up a lot of cpu power/resources. I believe that Tom has said that Air Zonk's (unoptimized) sound engine uses as much as 21(?)% cpu power. If redbook music doesn't tax the cpu in the same way, then CD games potentially can do more than a sound intensive HuCard game.
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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2013, 06:15:37 AM »
I choose supergrafx CD-ROMantic

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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2013, 11:19:17 AM »
CDoes, HuCardoesn't.

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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2013, 11:59:36 AM »
Hueys are great, slim, and portable, but c'mon, they weren't unique or anything...  SMS, MSX, etc had slim MyCard/BeeCard etc.

So, CD-ROM² for its pioneering games and unmatched music!

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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2013, 12:57:06 PM »
HuCards. Durable, make great shurikens, and have greats like Legendary Axe, Street Fighter II, Bomberman 93, 94,  Parasol Stars, Side Arms, Galaga 88, Bonk...

I could go on all day.

weren't you the one that owns only two CD games? how could you even judge the might power of CD-ROM²? :P

btw. I also went with CD-ROM², since it was the technology that pushed the system to its absolute limits. sure some hueys are great too in terms of showing the technical ability of the system, but the CD-ROM² just pushed it beyond the believable. great games like GoT, WoT, Drac X etc. wouldn't have been possible without CD-ROM² tech., and therefore I am very greatful.

and in the end it also prevented the system from dying quickly during the harcore 16-bit war, since it could offer so much more than the MD/Genny and SFC/SNES at that time could, due to its succesful add-on.

I sure love teh hueys very much, but as chris already said, it wasn't that super novelty that nobody had ever seen before. the CD-ROM² as a game media storage au contraire was something that the world hadn't seen yet at that time it came out, and was even a novelty for the upcoming years.
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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2013, 01:08:30 PM »
HuCards for the portability option when played on a Express/GT.  I was amazed in the 90s when I first found out about the Turbo Express and how its able to play the same console HuCard games on the go. 


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Re: HuCard vs. CD-ROM² (CD, SCD, ACD)
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2013, 01:51:55 PM »
As a developer, I've gotta go with the CDROM. I really like to make RPGs, and the CD just gives so much more ability for this. You just can't pull off complex, animated cutscenes with voice acting on a hucard. Both mediums have their advantages and disadvantages, but I believe that the CD's advantages far outweigh its disadvantages.