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Keith Courage

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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2014, 07:16:27 PM »
I've just looked at a few more pictures and it really looks like you can just cut the unused pin off of each ribbon. I just ordered one as well.

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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2014, 12:39:02 AM »
the main ribbon cable looks like its missing the notch/hole that locks it in place.

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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2014, 10:29:30 PM »
I received a KSS-320B pickup, and I can confirm that it definitely DOESN´T match. The ribbon cable is way too small in width, so one would have to swap all cables.

Can´t say though if there´s another variation of it out there...
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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2014, 03:48:06 AM »
With that guide you got you can try out the cable exchange and tell us if that worked =)
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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2014, 05:00:27 AM »
With that guide you got you can try out the cable exchange and tell us if that worked =)

Nope. I don´t have a soldering tip small enough for that...someone else maybe?
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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2014, 06:37:11 AM »
But your's can have the tip exchanged.
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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2014, 07:09:25 AM »
But your's can have the tip exchanged.

Nope. Not with this one...
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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2014, 09:57:36 AM »
Could you please post a pick of the two larger lens cables next to each other? I just want to see the difference.

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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2014, 03:54:47 PM »
Nice find Wolfman, Did you get the unit yet and if so does it work in the actual system? I read that soldering the ribbon cable is crazy tough.

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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #24 on: March 31, 2014, 09:16:45 AM »
Could you please post a pick of the two larger lens cables next to each other? I just want to see the difference.

Yes, I will do it on the weekend.

I read that soldering the ribbon cable is crazy tough.

Haven´t tried it yet, as I don´t have a matching solder tip.
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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2014, 09:55:55 AM »
So, today I was able to have a look into the matter. What I found out is the following:

KSS-320b in fact IS compatible to KSS-220a, but one has to exchange all the cables from the KSS-220a to the 320b version. This isn´t an easy thing and can be time consuming. I spend half a day checking the procedure and playing around to get it done, including building it into a drive. I was able to play music from CDRs as well as from original CDs. I did not test it for gameplay, as I was using my CDR-35 as a test base (which isn´t capable of playing games...). But I guess it will load games as well with a little tweaking of the pots.
At least I ended up with a working FrankenLaser  :D

KSS-220a prep:
First you have to unsolder the cable leading to the lens head, which is rather easy. Once you removed the four solder tabs (careful!) you can GENTLY pull it off, as it is only glued to the cable below (which leads inside the head).

Second you need to unsolder the 3 contacts from the laser diode. This is very finicky (at least for me) and needs a very quiet hand. I used a fine braid to remove the excessive (original) solder from the pins. Take you time, as the pins are long and there is no way around desoldering! If you are not careful enough you can easily burn the cable - goodbye new laser! Then unscrew the little board right next to it holding the famous laser pot.

Third you need to remove the whole plate (yes!) holding the efm sensor. The plate is glued to the metal body of the laser unit. You can scrape of the glue with a sharpie and pry it of the body. You will see a little hole and inside you see a tiny tiny tiny sensor. Do not touch the surface, as those sensors will be responsible for the alignment of your laser on track! You better mark the position of the hole on the plate, as you will have to glue it onto the new laser unit! If you don´t align it in the right position you will never be able to re-align your new laser...no  games - sorry!

KSS-320b:
Now unsolder the cable leading to laser head like you did on the KSS-220a, gently pry it off afterwards and be very very careful not do damage the leftover cable leading to the inside!

Then clip off the cable from the diode and scrape off the EFM sensor, as you don´t need them anymore - remember you are going to use the cable from the 220a!
Now carefully desolder the cable end from the Diode and clean the contact so that they are as thin as possible - you need to slide the cable end from the 220a onto the 3 contacts without damaging them!

No comes the hard part:
I recommend you start with sliding the cable on the contacts. If this goes wrong you´re f*cked - so it doesnt make sense to begin with the easier stuff first  :wink:
Carefully solder the contacts, then screw the tiny board with the laser pot on (remember?).

Next you need to glue the EFM board onto the body so that its hole matches the hole on the outside of the new laser unit. Since you´ve marked the hole position on the outside this shouldn´t be an issue. I recommend you use epoxy and apply it where the original glue was sticked to. This will make it easier for you. I also recommend that you start with one side and wait until the epoxy has dried up, and then go for the other side. This will leave you with enough headroom for correct adjustment.

If you finished this part, then its downhill - you just have to solder the remaining cable to the other side on the lens head - and you´re finished  :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You still will have to build it into a unit again, and then comes the part of readjusting - which will be timeconsuming, because your EFM sensor isn´t factory-aligned. This means you need extensive tweaking of VR103 and VR104 (which are responsible for this). In my case VR101 and VR102 almost didn´t change. So I guess it will be the same for you...

I hope this will be help to some of you. The KSS-320b is a cheap cheap laser and can be head for next to nothing. If you happen to have a dead KSS-220a, and you´re willing to test your skills - then I suggest you give it a try.

EDIT: Can we make this a sticky? I would add a few photos as well. I think it would be a good tutorial for all interested...
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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2014, 05:49:28 PM »
sadly ive seen more torn cables then dead lasers on these
also if at all possible dont remove the EFM plate from the new laser
they can be extremely hard to realign.
note that the diode isnt too hard to replace if its your issue

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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2014, 12:15:03 AM »
sadly ive seen more torn cables then dead lasers on these
also if at all possible dont remove the EFM plate from the new laser
they can be extremely hard to realign.
note that the diode isnt too hard to replace if its your issue

I have seen no way NOT to remove the EFM plate - the solder spots are extremely tiny and the cable is so incredible thin that I was in fear or tearing or burning it. Thats why I did that way. I´ll see if it turned out ok when I will be using the unit for games.

How would I remove the diode? There is so much glue in there on all sides that its almost impossible not to damage it....
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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2014, 09:01:51 AM »
the diodes are hard to remove, but dont require realignment

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Re: Sony KSS 220a Replacement Laser
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2014, 09:40:16 AM »
i just checked my laser pile (dead lasers)
i have a KSS220a with the ribbons removed (EFM plate untouched)
note the KSS162 EFM plate is different and cant be separated from ribbon
the ribbon swap/replacement on the 220a is not hard (done before)
use solder wick to remove solder, and allow sensor to cool between pins