Rondo of Blood Thread

[Bonknuts]

EvilEvoIX:

Don't be butt hurt. If you have the knowledge to hack-it in these tech discussions, then that's fine. If not, then just be a gamer like everyone else - and enjoy your games. We're all gamers in the end.

No need to make up stuff or continue to argue with facts that you have no understanding of. If you want to be proud of the Genesis and its library, then there's nothing wrong with that. There are a lot of AAA titles on the system and show off what it can do. But most of us that talk tech, specs, etc - are devs for systems. It's in our nature. And when someone spout misconceptions or just plain non-truths (while plugging thier ears), it gets old and annoying. Real fast.

Hack it?  I'm sorry is this some sort of battle I walked into or a discussion?  I've been here before, anything bad said is poor development or bad programming, anything good and it's hardware superiority, I am well aware of how it works on this site or any other site dedicated to classic 16-Bit era machines.  If I push it further some nut takes the day off work and counts every frame of animation from a PCE CD Game and posts it compared to a 2KB ROM from 1978 and declares victory, enough I just don't give enough of a shit at this point it's madness.  I am not dumb enough to argue on this site any more, not even for fun which carried me for a good six months before people caught on.  (48 Bit Bios Revision) 

Back on topic.....

I simply asked what the sprite limit was on a Sega CD and how an apples to apples translation of Forgotten Worlds would work on Sega CD from a PCE CD comparison.  The main point of contention was single player vs multi on the Genesis.  Then what about the Sega CD, someone's E-Dick got stepped on and then who gives a f*ck but oh no then I get what amounts to the new testament of "Butt Hurt" posted..  Someone mercifully posted the answer, that's it.  ,   People wana flop their E-Dick's in other members mouth, have at it, leave me out of it.  Some seem to like it, me I don't buy that shit nor am I impressed with any E-superiority you care to boast about. 

Make stuff up?  I asked a f*cking question.  I swear people like to argue at the drop of a hat.  I have all major late 80's-early 90's 16 Bit Era systems and I've played them for about 25 years now.  I have a broad understanding of what they can and can not do in terms of colors or sprites or slowdown or music.  Can I program a game?  Can I understand code?  Hell no and never pretended to do so.  All I asked was what the Sega CD added in terms of sprites and what benefits the system would add to a CD title of Forgotten Worlds.  I see that the Sega CD is indeed still limited to 80 Sprites so I see that it's best traits are scaling and obviously less slowdown in certain style games not to mention KILLER FMV and music 

This site I swear people just wana argue over nothing.  God forbid someone mentions EWJ people I am warning you.

 See, now you're getting butt hurt. Don't be butt hurt. Simple as that.

 You're not so innocent. You've played many of this type of game in the past. Lots on Sega-16, a few times here.

[toymachine78]

Jesus! Will you guys stop talking about E-dicks!? Its creeping me out! 

[lukester]

People, stop fighting over Forgotten Worlds on Sega CD, or I will lock the thread.

[awack]

oops, forgot to post the sheets,

here is some color cycling comparison, the pic below is from Dracxx, it cycles through 15 unique colors, in comparison, rondo cycles through 125 colors, by the way, I don't count those as frames other things in rondo I don't count is the begening of each stage has a title different for richter and Maria, they have a cool warping or melting effect, also when you defeat a boss, his life bar melts, two unique frames for that...I don't count a lot of animation that's in rondo, the game is just loaded with crap, I also added the rondo death color cycling.

Just to point out, the GNG sprite sheet of animation/fx is only about 65 percent done...rondo is about 90 percent done, the enemy flame fx has three other palettes, one green and two purples there are actually subtle differences between them, so that right there is 90 more frames, mostly palettes swaps though, Demons Crest is about 100 percent complete.



Dracula xx 15 unique colors



rondo about 125 unique colors...just Death I got lazy and didn't cut the other frames out.

[geise]

Haha I totally forgot about Maria's turtle shell animations.

[EvilEvoIX]

I just need to swing my E-Dick around a few more times guy if that's OK, I mean all you did was ask a question but I felt like arguing anyway, is that cool?

Dude go for it, whatever helps you get the poison out, just try not to get any on me and point it away when you are spraying.  Thanks again for the ton of free games and discounted hardware, this truly is a great site and I wish to stay a long time.

oops, forgot to post the sheets,

here is some color cycling comparison, the pic below is from Dracxx, it cycles through 15 unique colors, in comparison, rondo cycles through 125 colors, by the way, I don't count those as frames other things in rondo I don't count is the begening of each stage has a title different for richter and Maria, they have a cool warping or melting effect, also when you defeat a boss, his life bar melts, two unique frames for that...I don't count a lot of animation that's in rondo, the game is just loaded with crap, I also added the rondo death color cycling.

Just to point out, the GNG sprite sheet of animation/fx is only about 65 percent done...rondo is about 90 percent done, the enemy flame fx has three other palettes, one green and two purples there are actually subtle differences between them, so that right there is 90 more frames, mostly palettes swaps though, Demons Crest is about 100 percent complete.



Dracula xx 15 unique colors



rondo about 125 unique colors

Now this is amazing work, how long does it take to tally this?



Also our very own Spida1 did a 100% complete walk through of this game back in 1994, I plan to use this for my play-through.  Amazing work by this guy and the dedication is obvious. 20 year anniversary too, outstanding. 

[geise]

Why use a walkthrough?  Finding everything on your own is a huge part of the fun factor for the game.  Well, to me anyways.

[lukester]

Why use a walkthrough?  Finding everything on your own is a huge part of the fun factor for the game.  Well, to me anyways.

Absolutely.

EvilEvoX, half the fun is finding the secrets. Seriously buddy, your going to ruin your experience.

[EvilEvoIX]

Why use a walkthrough?  Finding everything on your own is a huge part of the fun factor for the game.  Well, to me anyways.

Absolutely.

EvilEvoX, half the fun is finding the secrets. Seriously buddy, your going to ruin your experience.

Well I guess you are right, but I am also a completionist.  I hate to miss part of the experience.  The issue issue is time.  I'm playing through so many games now plus work it's tough to keep it up.  But you are probably right I'll just hammer this one out.

[Tatsujin]

, I plan to use this for my play-through.

lol, are you serious? you need video help for the play-through of dracula x?

:edith:

sory, was already discussed  :oops:

[EvilEvoIX]

, I plan to use this for my play-through.

lol, are you serious? you need video help for the play-through of dracula x?

:edith:

sory, was already discussed  :oops:

I always like 100% completion but on second thought I'll play through a couple of times on my own.

[Tatsujin]

, I plan to use this for my play-through.

lol, are you serious? you need video help for the play-through of dracula x?

:edith:

sory, was already discussed  :oops:

I always like 100% completion but on second thought I'll play through a couple of times on my own.

yeah who wouldn't 100% complete drac x anyway? only a retard wouldn't. oh wait...

[EvilEvoIX]

, I plan to use this for my play-through.

lol, are you serious? you need video help for the play-through of dracula x?

:edith:

sory, was already discussed  :oops:

I always like 100% completion but on second thought I'll play through a couple of times on my own.

yeah who wouldn't 100% complete drac x anyway? only a retard wouldn't. oh wait...

[sunteam_paul]

there needs to be a sprite art only thread!!!

I have a selection over at my site (most ripped by Awack). http://www.pcengine.co.uk/HTML_Sprite_Sheets/Sprite_Sheets_Index.htm

I need to do some more.

[Otaking]

Rondo of E-Dick