Author Topic: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??  (Read 819 times)

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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2014, 12:51:19 AM »
in reply to OP: "So, is this worth it for the video quality difference?"
only if you are using a crt, yes.
if you're using a hd/led/lcd/whatever new word for it this week, nope, cos the image will still be crap. (lego)
if you're using a hd/led/lcd/whatever new word for it this week, you would be better off investing in either a
xrgb-mini (framemeister) type device or buy a secondhand crt or stick to composite as it is excellent from the
pcengine consoles and save the cash.

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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2014, 02:47:15 AM »
Well, I received the console, and as I feared the region mod did not function. When I pop in an American hucard and flip the switch the game may or may not work for a few seconds before freezing/distorting the video and sound. The longest I have been able to play is about 25 seconds. I can't test the RGB mod yet, as the converter I ordered (I should have held off on this) has not arrived yet. Super disappointed.

The seller agreed to supply a partial refund, since the system still plays what it is natively meant to play. Hopefully it doesn't die in the next week. That would really suck.

So now I have to figure out if I should try to fix the mod myself, or contact the modder maybe (Doujindance).

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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2014, 05:23:42 AM »
I just modded my converter box so no external breakout box / cable needed. It's not that hard.
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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2014, 05:24:33 AM »
as far as LCD - it will be best on a tube set, but I use this converter box on one of my Samsung LCD's and honestly it isn't bad at all.
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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2014, 01:03:35 PM »
in reply to OP: "So, is this worth it for the video quality difference?"
only if you are using a crt, yes.
if you're using a hd/led/lcd/whatever new word for it this week, nope, cos the image will still be crap. (lego)
if you're using a hd/led/lcd/whatever new word for it this week, you would be better off investing in either a
xrgb-mini (framemeister) type device or buy a secondhand crt or stick to composite as it is excellent from the
pcengine consoles and save the cash.

a framemeister xrgb is US$400 plus, that's heavy commitment, for die hard retro gamers, ie, price of xbox1 or ps4

on the other hand, the older xrgb2,2plus, 3 is a fraction of the cost, but still US$150 per unit,  for slightly  wealthy gamers

while a cheapo rgb to component is probably only US$60 which is reasonable to casual retro gamers

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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2014, 03:47:05 PM »
It seems that there are some strong opinions on both sides of this discussion. Once I get the converter in the mail, I guess I'll see but since quality seems to depend so much on other factors, I may just settle for S video and ditch the converter.

I'm viewing on either a 23" old 1080i Samsung hdtv, or my 64" Samsung f8500 plasma. Although, the plasma may not have an S video connection or Rca for that matter. I don't currently own a CRT TV.

 First I want to get the & #@$ region mod fixed. It's like a sad cloud hanging over my Duo.

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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2014, 12:51:45 PM »
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It seems that there are some strong opinions on both sides of this discussion. Once I get the converter in the mail, I guess I'll see but since quality seems to depend so much on other factors, I may just settle for S video and ditch the converter.

I'm viewing on either a 23" old 1080i Samsung hdtv, or my 64" Samsung f8500 plasma. Although, the plasma may not have an S video connection or Rca for that matter. I don't currently own a CRT TV.

 First I want to get the & #@$ region mod fixed. It's like a sad cloud hanging over my Duo.
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pc engine does not output s video ( stranglely, pc-fx which is poor successor to pc engine has only composite and s video, not rgb)

so you need a rgb to s -video converter which I think it's not worth it (s video is ok, but it's not as sharp or vivid as RGB or component), if your rgb to component is reasonable price ie, less than US$60. then try it, if you want the ultimate picture, xrgb machine - older ones are rare and can be from US$200 plus, but it's worth it, latest one xrgb mini is expensive and the best but at US$400-450, it's not cheap at all

you can also use it for rgb output from snes, genesis/md, Saturn, dreamcast ( certain games), ps1, ps2, etc

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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2014, 04:03:05 PM »
First question
Can you solder?

Second question
What region mod do you have?

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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2014, 03:41:48 AM »
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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2014, 03:50:30 AM »
This cable does not work as a converter. It will only work on TVs that are able to accept analog YPbPr signals on the (usually digital only) HDMI socket.

I don't know of any TV that would be able to support such an uncommon feature.

The positive reviews of this cable are misleading: one review is just praising the seller for returning the product, and the other review is pure nonsense.
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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2014, 05:37:08 AM »
This cable does not work as a converter. It will only work on TVs that are able to accept analog YPbPr signals on the (usually digital only) HDMI socket.

I don't know of any TV that would be able to support such an uncommon feature.

The positive reviews of this cable are misleading: one review is just praising the seller for returning the product, and the other review is pure nonsense.

I never said its a converter - it lets you use ANALOG signals (Sound, Video) via HDMI.

I don't know of any TV that would be able to support such an uncommon feature.

The positive reviews of this cable are misleading: one review is just praising the seller for returning the product, and the other review is pure nonsense.

Doesn´t mean they dont exist.
Apart from that the one reviewer stated that it didn´t work for his purpose...whatever that may have been - he doesnt give a clear reference.
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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2014, 07:00:36 AM »
I never said its a converter - it lets you use ANALOG signals (Sound, Video) via HDMI.

Then why suggest it?  This thread is about CONVERTERS, not some piece of crap cable that will be a waste of money for the majority of people; there's no shortage of such cables on Amazon, all with poor feedback.
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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2014, 07:48:47 AM »
I never said its a converter - it lets you use ANALOG signals (Sound, Video) via HDMI.

Then why suggest it?  This thread is about CONVERTERS, not some piece of crap cable that will be a waste of money for the majority of people; there's no shortage of such cables on Amazon, all with poor feedback.

I suggest you read my PREVIOUS post before you fret. I stated clearly before that already that it is for analog ONLY.

Besides, sometimes people suggest things, whether you like it or not. I also received a lot of nonsense feedback at times, even in this forum. Did throw my anger at people? No.

Keep your temper down  :mrgreen:
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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2014, 08:52:44 AM »
I suggest you read my PREVIOUS post before you fret. I stated clearly before that already that it is for analog ONLY.

Obviously it's for analog.  By spec, component and RGB are analog, so what else could it be?

Besides, sometimes people suggest things, whether you like it or not. I also received a lot of nonsense feedback at times, even in this forum. Did throw my anger at people? No.

You suggested that someone buy a useless cable instead of buying a converter.  Why?  Do you not know such cables are a scam, surviving on the premise that it's not worth return shipping for a refund?

Keep your temper down  :mrgreen:

There's nothing in my response even close to anger.  :roll:
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Re: Scart RGB to Component converter worth the cost??
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2014, 09:43:39 AM »
You suggested that someone buy a useless cable instead of buying a converter.  Why?  Do you not know such cables are a scam, surviving on the premise that it's not worth return shipping for a refund?

Well, I don´t know about those sales...can´t remember of a single item I bought to be of scam origin...

I am not that much into HDMI specs to know whether it still supports analog RGB signal or not at all.
I know that some laptops allow analog signal output via HDMI, so why shouldn´t there  be a TV accepting analog via HDMI in?
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