Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?

[MrFulci]

There will be a point where prices slow this huge rise they've been doing. Certain items will always be high priced, but I can't see 10 years from now, like in the example I made, "Magical Chase" going for almost $85K in 2025 or so. Then again, it could!

Vestcoat, in an earlier page, also mentions he noticed the prices rise sharply when the TG-16 stuff became available for the Wii. Same thing I noticed, and has been mentioned here before. All fo a sudden the TG-16 had a lot more exposure. It was a system, where even people who grew up during that time weren't familiar with it.

The way some prices are right now, there is a lot of stuff I wouldn't touch. Even about 10 years ago, when I wanted a system modded for S-Video and such, I went with a Duo-R, not only because I've noticed they tend to have less problems, but also the price.

The same with Neo Geo. I don't mess with AES. MVS only for me. I'll let other people play with those crazy prices.

Speaking of people who dump collections, I remember a guy here, I can't recall the name, back in 2006 or so, he spray painted his Duo-R black? He posted here for about a year after he started buying TG-16 again. Then, he sold it all on ebay.

[neopolss]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable. 

[synbiosfan]

and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable.

I never expected video games would be collectible period.

[esteban]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable.

Dungeon Explorer II is a nice game, bro!

Same goes for NEUTOPIA II.

 

[Mathius]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable. 

I gotta disagree. Dungeon Explorer II is a stellar game, I think. ;-)

And I haven't seen NES and SNES games bottoming out yet. It's all overpriced still. $50 for Super Metroid loose is insane. I bought my complete boxed replacement copy off Amazon in '09 for around $20. My copy died on me for unknown reasons.

[DarkKobold]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable.

Dungeon Explorer II is a nice game, bro!

Same goes for NEUTOPIA II.

 

Dude, I love Dungeon Explorer II. Epic music, translation and voice acting by the epic Working Designs, 5 player dungeon crawling... yeah, its awesome.

Neutopia II is sort of a Link to the Past lite. Its just a good game, with fun bosses and mechanics. Screw that stupid slime battle though.

[HailingTheThings]

Some guy on one of the turbografx Facebook groups was going on and on about how he just has to own Beyond Shadowgate... then later revealed that he 1) thought the game was nothing special, and 2) did not own any type of pce/tg CD system.  He wanted it purely to put on a shelf.

That is beyond stupid(gate).

[xelement5x]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable. 

I gotta disagree. Dungeon Explorer II is a stellar game, I think. ;-)

And I haven't seen NES and SNES games bottoming out yet. It's all overpriced still. $50 for Super Metroid loose is insane. I bought my complete boxed replacement copy off Amazon in '09 for around $20. My copy died on me for unknown reasons.

Quoted for Truth.

Nintendo stuff is ridiculous, and I see no signs of it bottoming out.  When you have loose carts that regularly in the $800-$1000 range that just defies all logic too me.  What I actually see now is more folks jumping from Nintendo to other systems purely because they're much more affordable to collect for.  Traditionally Genesis stuff has been really cheap (and I loved it), but prices on it are rising fast.  GnG for the Genesis is like a $30 game CIB now, WTF?!

[Medic_wheat]

Video game collectors are an insane breed.  The problem with game collectors is that many games are based solely on the limited print run and less to do with the quality of the game.  Games like nba 2k7 go up in value because it was a last run game for ps2, and for no other reason.  Many games do not reflect actual value, and only after we stop collecting does the actual market come into play.  So many tg16 ebay auctions are buy it now, simply to keep the value of some from plumetting.  No one will care about some of these games after our generation.  Dungeon explorer ii, neutopia ii, and others are way over priced and arent really that greAt.  Expect them to drop to half value or more in the next ten years or so.  Nes and snes are already starting to bottom out to atari 2600 levels.  Expect only a handful of actual valuable games, and dont expect anything from this era to be collectable. 

I gotta disagree. Dungeon Explorer II is a stellar game, I think. ;-)

And I haven't seen NES and SNES games bottoming out yet. It's all overpriced still. $50 for Super Metroid loose is insane. I bought my complete boxed replacement copy off Amazon in '09 for around $20. My copy died on me for unknown reasons.

Quoted for Truth.

Nintendo stuff is ridiculous, and I see no signs of it bottoming out.  When you have loose carts that regularly in the $800-$1000 range that just defies all logic too me.  What I actually see now is more folks jumping from Nintendo to other systems purely because they're much more affordable to collect for.  Traditionally Genesis stuff has been really cheap (and I loved it), but prices on it are rising fast.  GnG for the Genesis is like a $30 game CIB now, WTF?!

Thats why I have moved completly away from nintendo. Unless I find it on the cheap or at a local store I dont go looking for it on line to buy.

But now that I have gone mostly Sega it seems many more have as well which makes it feel like some mad dash to become more knowable about various sega platforms to weed out the fun games before they become uber "rare" 

[neopolss]

I didnt say dungeon explorer ii was terrible, its a good game, but it ain't $200 good.  Neutopia II is the same.  I find myself wanting to love it in order to justify the price.  As someone who works in a game store, most nes and snes are worthless, with about 20 to 30 titles worth a crap, and most of it entirely reasonable to have if you don't need box, manual,and other nonsense.  Even the overhyped earthbound is well within reason with box and manual.  Tg16 is nowhere near reasonable.  Its going to drop.  Not a question of if, but when. 

[Mathius]

If we're talking value no game is worth the prices retro games are going for nowadays. Dungeon Explorer II and Earthbound are both good games. They're just not $500 good. $100 good? Getting closer. Let's go for $50-$80 depending on condition. Now you are starting to get value for the experience the games offer.

[HailingTheThings]

Let's go for $50-$80 depending on condition. Now you are starting to get value for the experience the games offer.

Totally wish that was a thing.

[jordan_hillman]

I have a feeling, what will change prices quite a bit, is when collections start getting dumped.

I absolutely agree. Collectors seem tend to drop their collections for a few reasons: (1) they're "cashing" in on their "investments" by selling when the market is very high or peaking; (2) their collection becomes a burden, they grow tired of it, or they give up on acquiring the allusive "full run" of a system's titles and sell it off; or, (3) they quickly flip games for quick profit.

Right now a lot of collectors have been posting a lot of the "rare" CD titles on eBay lately, and if you've been following what they've been selling for, the first couple copies of games like Bonk 3, Godzilla, Terraforming, Super Air Zonk, etc. sold for extremely high prices, and the next couple of auctions sold for sometimes as much as $100-150 less than the earlier auctions (I recall a copy of Bonk 3 going for close to $900 and a subsequent copy went for less than $750 only about a month or so later). Now I'm not saying that a system wide price crash is eminent (it's going to be quite a few years at least), but it goes to show that once collectors start dumping their collections in large quantities the price of "rare" games drops rather quickly. Once the majority of collectors are priced out by the ever increases in "value" of "rare" games--e.g. when the market's prices have "peaked"--frustrated collectors, along with resellers and flippers, will dump their collections, and prices will inevitably drop.

Once again, I am not saying that the market drop is eminent, or even somewhat close to happening, nor am I saying that the holy grail titles of TG collecting (Magical Chase, Dynastic Hero, etc.) will loose all of their value (they certainly won't). However, they will not be able to maintain their current upward trajectory of "value," and overall TG prices will drop sometime in the future. 

[jeffhlewis]

I have legitimately given up on acquiring games for certain systems because of cost. Honestly I'm at a dead stand-still at the moment because I've got too big of a backlog of games to play and the Facebook re-seller bullshit is driving me insane.

[Mathius]

I have legitimately given up on acquiring games for certain systems because of cost. Honestly I'm at a dead stand-still at the moment because I've got too big of a backlog of games to play and the Facebook re-seller bullshit is driving me insane.

They clog up the toilet that's for sure. I'm glad this site still acts as the plunger.