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wilykat

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #210 on: August 26, 2015, 10:48:10 AM »
Hindsight is 20/20

I have oh about 30 PSX consoles and about a dozen PSOne consoles.  Most of them were from local yard sales and Goodwill for as low as $10, and nearly all are working. Just a PSOne that can't read at all even with a new drive, probably a fried chip.  I figure I might as well stock up on these because in 20 years from now, people would be paying a lot for a working console.  Like how Atari 2600 is usually going for $50 working nowday when I used to be able to get crapload of them about 20 years ago for next to nothing.

If you factor in inflation, I won't be making much profit in 20 years but I won't need to worry about having working console when Chinese companies stops making cheap replacement drives and demand for working console goes crazy high, I can afford to blow a few up to bad modding. :D

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #211 on: August 26, 2015, 10:53:07 AM »
Hindsight is 20/20

I have oh about 30 PSX consoles and about a dozen PSOne consoles.  Most of them were from local yard sales and Goodwill for as low as $10, and nearly all are working. Just a PSOne that can't read at all even with a new drive, probably a fried chip.  I figure I might as well stock up on these because in 20 years from now, people would be paying a lot for a working console.  Like how Atari 2600 is usually going for $50 working nowday when I used to be able to get crapload of them about 20 years ago for next to nothing.

If you factor in inflation, I won't be making much profit in 20 years but I won't need to worry about having working console when Chinese companies stops making cheap replacement drives and demand for working console goes crazy high, I can afford to blow a few up to bad modding. :D

The problem with the PSX was that PS2 and PS3 could play the discs back and offer superior video quality of said games.  Most other systems have one life and then they're done, so they'll always hold some value.  My Goodwill to this day is still littered with PS1 consoles.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #212 on: August 26, 2015, 11:14:57 AM »
Yeah, that's a good point. I stopped using my PSX because I bought YPbPr/Component cables for my PS2 and playing my PS1 games on it was a lot prettier. :) You're investing in the wrong console, me thinks... ;)

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #213 on: August 26, 2015, 12:19:53 PM »
There will always be a slight demand for the PS1 to play games that the PS2 can't. Plus, some folks like original systems. Otherwise, everyone would just play on a Retron.

That said, it's unlikely that there will ever be a demand great enough to have that "investment" pay off.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #214 on: August 26, 2015, 12:26:34 PM »
There will always be a slight demand for the PS1 to play games that the PS2 can't. Plus, some folks like original systems. Otherwise, everyone would just play on a Retron.

That said, it's unlikely that there will ever be a demand great enough to have that "investment" pay off.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #215 on: August 26, 2015, 12:28:48 PM »
There will always be a slight demand for the PS1 to play games that the PS2 can't. Plus, some folks like original systems. Otherwise, everyone would just play on a Retron.

That said, it's unlikely that there will ever be a demand great enough to have that "investment" pay off.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #216 on: August 26, 2015, 02:12:46 PM »
X-Files has bugs on the PS2, and my copy of Return Fire doesn't work past the menus on my PS3 so yeah.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #217 on: August 27, 2015, 03:26:02 AM »

There will always be a slight demand for the PS1 to play games that the PS2 can't. Plus, some folks like original systems. Otherwise, everyone would just play on a Retron.

Except the PS2 and PS3 aren't really emulating since they actually have the PSX processor and hardware built in.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #218 on: August 27, 2015, 04:50:21 AM »

There will always be a slight demand for the PS1 to play games that the PS2 can't. Plus, some folks like original systems. Otherwise, everyone would just play on a Retron.

Except the PS2 and PS3 aren't really emulating since they actually have the PSX processor and hardware built in.

Only the earliest PS3 used a chip.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #219 on: August 27, 2015, 05:53:37 AM »
The PS3's PS1 compatibility is completely software based. Only PS2 games were hardware emulated. (Sony just hide the software emulator for the PS2 after the launch of the slim consoles but it is still there, you can use it on a custom firmware and it is also used when you play PS2 Classics from the PSN store)

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #220 on: August 27, 2015, 09:47:04 AM »
(Sony just hide the software emulator for the PS2 after the launch of the slim consoles but it is still there, you can use it on a custom firmware and it is also used when you play PS2 Classics from the PSN store)

Oh wait, is that really true, Punch ? OK, because I was needing to get a PS3, but I thought I had to track down the very 1st model since they got rid of PS2 backwards compatibility. You're saying you can buy the newest PS3 model, patch the firmware, and fully restore PS2 support ?? Is that right ?

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #221 on: August 27, 2015, 09:50:23 AM »
The PS3's PS1 compatibility is completely software based. Only PS2 games were hardware emulated. (Sony just hide the software emulator for the PS2 after the launch of the slim consoles but it is still there, you can use it on a custom firmware and it is also used when you play PS2 Classics from the PSN store)
What reasoning would they have for that?

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #222 on: August 27, 2015, 10:07:31 AM »
What reasoning would they have for that?

My guess would be poor compatibility that Sony won't be fixing.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #223 on: August 27, 2015, 10:31:05 AM »
What reasoning would they have for that?

My guess would be poor compatibility that Sony won't be fixing.

The same reason we have that shitty Vita TV whitelist.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #224 on: August 27, 2015, 10:41:26 AM »
(Sony just hide the software emulator for the PS2 after the launch of the slim consoles but it is still there, you can use it on a custom firmware and it is also used when you play PS2 Classics from the PSN store)


Oh wait, is that really true, Punch ? OK, because I was needing to get a PS3, but I thought I had to track down the very 1st model since they got rid of PS2 backwards compatibility. You're saying you can buy the newest PS3 model, patch the firmware, and fully restore PS2 support ?? Is that right ?


Yeah I don't keep up with PS3 'scene' but that's pretty much it if your console can be downgraded to the jailbreak requirements. There's even a PSP emulator! (http://www.pshomebrew.net/wiki/PSP_On_PS3_Compatibility_List) Compatibility wise the PS2 soft emu isn't that great though. I have Winback and Grand Theft Auto:SA from the PSN store and it's not that bad but not that great either.