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seieienbu

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #225 on: August 27, 2015, 12:20:50 PM »
What reasoning would they have for that?
I  always assumed it was so that you'd pay for PS2 classics rather than just put the disk you already own in your PS3 and play it.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #226 on: August 27, 2015, 01:04:20 PM »

What reasoning would they have for that?
I  always assumed it was so that you'd pay for PS2 classics rather than just put the disk you already own in your PS3 and play it.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #227 on: August 29, 2015, 04:13:58 AM »
Here's a frustration I have with the PS3...  I picked up one of those 1st gen launch models so it has the hardware backwards compatibility support.  Trouble is I never use it for that.  I always pull out the PS2 to play PS1/PS2 games.  Why?  I'm afraid that overuse will eventually kill the PS3.  Its still working fine despite being nearly 10 years old now.  I have a download of Nights HD on it, so I keep it around pretty much just for that.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #228 on: August 29, 2015, 04:23:47 PM »
(Sony just hide the software emulator for the PS2 after the launch of the slim consoles but it is still there, you can use it on a custom firmware and it is also used when you play PS2 Classics from the PSN store)

Oh wait, is that really true, Punch ? OK, because I was needing to get a PS3, but I thought I had to track down the very 1st model since they got rid of PS2 backwards compatibility. You're saying you can buy the newest PS3 model, patch the firmware, and fully restore PS2 support ?? Is that right ?

Pretty much.  Out of the fat models, only the cech-a series uses a chip, the cech-e models use emulation, and then later models disabled it.  Its not really worth the hassle to enable it, as it did not work well.  I wouldnt recommend hunting down the cecha models either though.  In our shop, i have yet to see one not die from the ylod.  Even once they are reballed the failure rate is high, often withon a year.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #229 on: August 29, 2015, 04:30:55 PM »
(Sony just hide the software emulator for the PS2 after the launch of the slim consoles but it is still there, you can use it on a custom firmware and it is also used when you play PS2 Classics from the PSN store)

Oh wait, is that really true, Punch ? OK, because I was needing to get a PS3, but I thought I had to track down the very 1st model since they got rid of PS2 backwards compatibility. You're saying you can buy the newest PS3 model, patch the firmware, and fully restore PS2 support ?? Is that right ?

Pretty much.  Out of the fat models, only the cech-a series uses a chip, the cech-e models use emulation, and then later models disabled it.  Its not really worth the hassle to enable it, as it did not work well.  I wouldnt recommend hunting down the cecha models either though.  In our shop, i have yet to see one not die from the ylod.  Even once they are reballed the failure rate is high, often withon a year.

Wow, I could see failure that fast with a reflow, but I would expect a reball to last much longer than that, especially if you're using leaded solder.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #230 on: August 29, 2015, 05:35:53 PM »
Here's a frustration I have with the PS3...  I picked up one of those 1st gen launch models so it has the hardware backwards compatibility support.  Trouble is I never use it for that.  I always pull out the PS2 to play PS1/PS2 games.  Why?  I'm afraid that overuse will eventually kill the PS3.  Its still working fine despite being nearly 10 years old now.  I have a download of Nights HD on it, so I keep it around pretty much just for that.

I have a ps3 "slim" model since the week it launched. It gets used for hours almost every day as a dvd player and netflix. Today, my wife accidentally left it on and shut the tv cabinet that its in (with no ventillation) for 6 hours. This is not the first, second, third, etc. time this has happened. It has never even had a slight hiccup.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #231 on: August 29, 2015, 08:20:08 PM »
I suppose I should pick up a slim and dump the OG model to some collectard.  I bought it new a few weeks after launch and I kind of hate to get rid of it but I just know its going to die sometime.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #232 on: September 02, 2015, 08:34:05 AM »
I suppose I should pick up a slim and dump the OG model to some collectard.  I bought it new a few weeks after launch and I kind of hate to get rid of it but I just know its going to die sometime.

I eventually had to. I had so much cool stuff on my PS3 that I was just completely unable to use. Plus, my OG model couldn't even run Last of Us. Seriously, you'd load up a level and the models would pop into space and then nothing would happen. So weird. Despite its weird disc loading mechanism, the newer PS3 really is pretty good...

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #233 on: September 09, 2015, 04:02:01 PM »
I have a ps3 "slim" model since the week it launched. It gets used for hours almost every day as a dvd player and netflix. Today, my wife accidentally left it on and shut the tv cabinet that its in (with no ventillation) for 6 hours. This is not the first, second, third, etc. time this has happened. It has never even had a slight hiccup.
The thing seems to be a rock. Or i just got lucky.

I literally have to pull out a portable fan to use my PS3 "fat" for Netflix in my entertainment center. It's that bad. Thing could heat a small home by itself.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #234 on: October 10, 2015, 03:35:56 AM »
So it looks like the technology is now nearly there for someone to do a full Magical Chase repro recreation of the original game, or repro of any other sought after HuCard such as Tonma.
So if this does happen unlike cartridge games you wont be able to open up the cart and check the circuit board to see if it's an original. So basically in the end the only way you'll be able to tell if yours is a fake is to own another original copy of the game to A to B reference the suspected fake with the genuine copy to see if there is any tiny differences, such as colours in the printing.

https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=19848

Edit: I'm not suggesting ichigobankai is related to developing fake copies to pass off as originals, just what he's done shows someone else with less good intentions could potentially do it.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #235 on: October 11, 2015, 06:15:50 AM »
As nice as ichigobankai's hueys are, they're not even close to originals and are instantly recognizable as unoriginal.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #236 on: October 11, 2015, 07:30:59 AM »
As nice as ichigobankai's hueys are, they're not even close to originals and are instantly recognizable as unoriginal.

But what if a black and gold Magical Chase was sold in custom premium packaging by PCEWorks, with limited edition Magical Chase candy?

Collectards are already paying more for several PCEWorks releases than the originals.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #237 on: October 11, 2015, 10:54:57 AM »
Collectards are already paying more for several PCEWorks releases than the originals.

For the life of me, I can't understand paying extra for a known forgery.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #238 on: October 11, 2015, 12:37:02 PM »
Collectards are already paying more for several PCEWorks releases than the originals.

For the life of me, I can't understand paying extra for a known forgery.

Because it is literally more rare.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #239 on: October 11, 2015, 01:17:13 PM »
I'll burn a copy of Last Alert and do a poor drawing of Guy Kazama on the label side of the disc. RARE!!! Only 1 copy in existence!

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