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Sparky

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #270 on: March 18, 2017, 06:43:13 PM »
I doubt there will be. These old post are great to awaken as going throw you can remember all the douches back in the day :P

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #271 on: March 19, 2017, 05:34:59 AM »
Q: TG16 price crash?
A: lol no
Source: 19 pages of unfulfilled $10 magical chase fantasies

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #272 on: March 19, 2017, 08:10:25 AM »
http://gamevaluenow.com/turbografx-16

If you like manuals and this chart is to be believed, it already happened.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #273 on: March 19, 2017, 09:39:13 AM »
http://gamevaluenow.com/turbografx-16

If you like manuals and this chart is to be believed, it already happened.


Given that there was no fluctuation in the loose price, I bet dollars to donuts that he implemented the CIC/CIB separation algorithm in Oct of '16. Also, no other console saw a substantial drop in prices (according to GVN charts) after Oct of '16. This just appears to be a 'correction factor' for cardboard.
Hey, you.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #274 on: March 19, 2017, 10:08:40 AM »
People on eBay are stupid.
Not Turbografx or PC Engine, but I was just bidding on a seller who had 20 different retro games auctions I was interested in.
ALL 20 separate game auctions got bid up and ended considerably higher than you could buy the same games for a buy it now, right now. Any of those bidders could of searched eBay and found the same games right now for cheaper than the amount they bid. That is literally throwing money away, or actually just giving it away just because they were so f*cking desperate to win the auction.

I don't remember it being this bad before where people would bid more than buy it nows. So is this the problem with prices and the current state of eBay? bidders having so desperately to win auctions at all costs??

I think I'll call them "Bidtards" from now on.

PS I know that what I just said is moving a bit off subject from a "TG16 price crash", it was just the way those auctions ended (and loads of others I've seen recently) made me think of this thread and the mind set of "I must have this game at any cost".
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #275 on: March 19, 2017, 11:17:25 AM »
Bidtards.

I like it. 

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #276 on: March 19, 2017, 12:27:32 PM »
Bidtards.

I like it. 

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #277 on: March 19, 2017, 02:08:02 PM »
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #278 on: March 19, 2017, 08:16:03 PM »
People on eBay are stupid.
Not Turbografx or PC Engine, but I was just bidding on a seller who had 20 different retro games auctions I was interested in.
ALL 20 separate game auctions got bid up and ended considerably higher than you could buy the same games for a buy it now, right now. Any of those bidders could of searched eBay and found the same games right now for cheaper than the amount they bid. That is literally throwing money away, or actually just giving it away just because they were so f*cking desperate to win the auction.

I don't remember it being this bad before where people would bid more than buy it nows. So is this the problem with prices and the current state of eBay? bidders having so desperately to win auctions at all costs??

I think I'll call them "Bidtards" from now on.

PS I know that what I just said is moving a bit off subject from a "TG16 price crash", it was just the way those auctions ended (and loads of others I've seen recently) made me think of this thread and the mind set of "I must have this game at any cost".
Yeah I've seen these assmonkeys in action before. A couple times I saw a nice CIC game sitting there with a BIN and I'd just jump on it the minute I got outbid, or it would disappear and I would watch helplessly as I got sniped and walked away with nothing. Then after the auction goes much higher than existing BINs prior to the auction's existance, subsequent BINs are listed based on the new auction benchmark. So one can review the "sold listings" on eBay and sort by date, see this pattern happening across many games, and once an auction price goes higher than the BIN, it sets a new bar and new BINs at the previous rate are a thing of the past, or very rarely when they do, they get snatched within minutes of the posting.

It's just seems these dumb bidders are contributing to the inflation problem even more than the sellers who post stupid money BINs. ](*,)

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #279 on: March 20, 2017, 01:22:20 AM »
http://gamevaluenow.com/turbografx-16

If you like manuals and this chart is to be believed, it already happened.


Given that there was no fluctuation in the loose price, I bet dollars to donuts that he implemented the CIC/CIB separation algorithm in Oct of '16. Also, no other console saw a substantial drop in prices (according to GVN charts) after Oct of '16. This just appears to be a 'correction factor' for cardboard.


I can confirm that is true, he changed the pricing algorithm then.  Prior to that, CIC and CIB wasn't really designated but it is treated separately going forward.  Owner is a good guy and always open to feedback if anyone wants to improve his algorithms or tracking.

As far as bubble popping on a whole, I'd expect gradual lulls or pullbacks (especially seasonally, like during summer), but a "crash" where $1000 games became $100 or less isn't happening.  There are simply so many resellers in the hobby that games would be scooped up as prices dropped and then relisted as BINs.  Even if they weren't selling, sellers would be stubborn and let them rot. 

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #280 on: March 20, 2017, 01:28:52 AM »
People on eBay are stupid.
Not Turbografx or PC Engine, but I was just bidding on a seller who had 20 different retro games auctions I was interested in.
ALL 20 separate game auctions got bid up and ended considerably higher than you could buy the same games for a buy it now, right now. Any of those bidders could of searched eBay and found the same games right now for cheaper than the amount they bid. That is literally throwing money away, or actually just giving it away just because they were so f*cking desperate to win the auction.

I don't remember it being this bad before where people would bid more than buy it nows. So is this the problem with prices and the current state of eBay? bidders having so desperately to win auctions at all costs??

I think I'll call them "Bidtards" from now on.

This has been happening for years, and will continue to happen all the time.  Like items, listed at auction, always do well together, many times selling for higher than they should.

The main reason is just simple marketing.  What yard sale would do better, one in the middle of no where or 10 all located together at an annual event?  Same concept, say a seller is selling 20 games.  They can be found with one click of "view seller's other items", instead of running 20 separate searches. 

Also a convenience thing, sometimes people will bid higher trying to get combined shipping if offered.  Some buyers are also only after specific titles, maybe a Bonk or Bomberman, so that's all they search.  Then when they look at seller's other items, maybe they'll throw some small bids at other titles of interests that they don't actively search for (and may not be familiar with the exact price of all BINs available).

TLDR - Like items listed together at 0.99 always do well.

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #281 on: April 19, 2017, 03:18:47 AM »
not sure if it's already been mentioned but... bitdards (love that...) that are interested in their childhood games again grow older and whilst in that process get (statistically) richer ](*,)
that and the fact that people are stupid points me towards increasing prices for quite some time. scientifically proven!

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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #282 on: April 19, 2017, 04:20:46 AM »
I've seen that phenomenon as well. Ive mentioned this before and I can't remember the details but a while ago I sold a component GC cable on eBay. I think I chose a BIN of like $80 but it ended up going for like $120 which was not only more than my BIN but more than the BIN on several other GC component  video cables at that very moment, other auctions and other BINs.

Since there are no pirate versions and region was irrelevant (I had no box) there is no sane way to explain this other than to say these people are dumb.
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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #283 on: April 19, 2017, 04:49:27 AM »
they pay over 30 dollars for games that cost 5 dollars a year ago

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JACK-NICKLAUS-TURBO-GOLF-CIB-TurboGrafx16-TurboDuo-TurboExpress-/132117689769?hash=item1ec2d3f5a9:g:uW8AAOSwCU1Yvb1X

no price crash ever


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Re: Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?
« Reply #284 on: April 19, 2017, 06:23:33 PM »
I've seen that phenomenon as well. Ive mentioned this before and I can't remember the details but a while ago I sold a component GC cable on eBay. I think I chose a BIN of like $80 but it ended up going for like $120 which was not only more than my BIN but more than the BIN on several other GC component  video cables at that very moment, other auctions and other BINs.

Since there are no pirate versions and region was irrelevant (I had no box) there is no sane way to explain this other than to say these people are dumb.
You mean $80 reserve, or one of those BID XXX or BIN for YYY auctions, and some moron still bid more than the BIN price? If it was BID $120+ or BIN $80, and I was interested in the item, I would sure as heck chose the BIN option and end it immediately. It would be like the ultimate snipe, or let them pay more. eBay even warns users if they set a max bid above the BIN price. :p