Will there ever be a TG16 price crash?

[crazydean]

Lol.

Legal Larry...

As for the prices of everything, I'm just glad there are now alternate ways to play pretty much everything these days. Even if you must have a card for every game, there are even reproductions now. This is really a great age if you like playing retro games. If you must have the original plastic case, well, be glad you don't collect Neo Geo.

[seieienbu]

I think a crash will happen but not universally.  You're never going to see cheap magical chases again; those days are long gone.  People will sit on those rather than take a loss in the thousands. 

That being said?  Keith Courage, TV Sports games, and a few others that are ridiculously common and not particularly good games still routinely sell for over $10 and sometimes up to $20 on ebay.  There's no way these prices can continue for those types of games.

[Gentlegamer]

However, as Tiger mentioned, these prices we're seeing can't be put on simple supply and demand. These f*cks acctually want to spend money, brag about it, and seem to be convinced that every time a game changes hands it should increase in price. That is a fad, and it will die, and it's death will be the majority of the crash. Once the interest rate on their credit cards starts to overtake the flipper bonus made when selling it..there's no money left in the fad!

These are all decades out trends in talking here, of course. So anyone who wants to power collect a full library in nine months...yeah, for him there will "never" be a crash because that's how he collects. He just devours shit he can't even use and then dumps it. Five years from now he'll be working full time at his dad's dealership and won't even remember what a Turbo is.

Also going into debt for video games is doing it wrong. Call me crazy but housing, transportation (be it a vehicle or a bike or w/e) and say food (if you are in between jobs or something) are things worth going into debt over. If you can't afford a freaking video game, don't buy it. Just emulate it instead, or if you are a real legal larry, just don't play it.

That's the problem, collectards over spending and resellers that enable them (some of whom are the "smart" collectards who fund their collections by flipping, thinking they are market experts, when all they are doing is catering collectards to mash BIN for inflated prices, those inflated prices giving the matter "prestige" or collectard-cred).

[jonebone]

I buy and sell a lot, and have done so for about 8+ years now.  From $10-$15 carts to $1000+ sealed across many platforms.  And believe me, when you talk about people buying things on credit, you are talking about a very miniscule amount of collectors.  I get more people saying "Hey can I pay on payday" (maybe ~5-10% of people I've dealt with) than people just financing it on credit.  So all of those assumptions regarding the crash are flat out wrong.

What you do get are life priorities that take place over collecting.  You get married, want to fund a honeymoon.  You have kids, need to convert game room to nursery.  You buy a house / sports car and need  a down payment etc.

Or, as we age, your kid goes to college and you see a $20K+ a year bill coming your way.  Or you have to pay for funerals of loved ones.  Etc.  But those are longer term impacts that shouldn't even be addressed now.

Since the overwhelming majority of this stuff is NOT bought on credit, you won't see an tremendous collapse of people selling stuff for pennies on the dollar.  Besides, not sure if you noticed, but if you list a bunch of like items at 0.99 auctions (which firesellers would have to do), they tend to do well and come damn near (or beat) BIN prices anyway.

I do think prices will taper off at some point as our generation ages and collecting shifts behind other life priorities, but expecting a full on collapse is wishful thinking.

[Necromancer]

It doesn't really matter whether they buy on credit or spend every dime they have buying games, saving nothing for a rainy day.  The result is the same: eventually they are forced to sell to pay for something else.

[Gentlegamer]

It doesn't really matter whether they buy on credit or spend every dime they have buying games, saving nothing for a rainy day.  The result is the same: eventually they are forced to sell to pay for something else.

Which means they couldn't afford and overspent to begin with.

[jonebone]

It doesn't really matter whether they buy on credit or spend every dime they have buying games, saving nothing for a rainy day.  The result is the same: eventually they are forced to sell to pay for something else.

Which means they couldn't afford and overspent to begin with.

Once again, those are the extremely tiny minority, the vast majority doesn't do that.  The amount of people who need to sell are typically the ones who got in recently, not the veterans who have been collecting a long time.

Speaking of, there was a guy who was selling a full TG16 CIB set on AtariAge a month ago.  I got in on it pretty quick and even I came away with only 3 games.  Simply because the guy has owned them for a decade (or longer), was only willing to sell at high end prices.  No discounts on multiple purchases and just a take it or leave it attitude.  He doesn't care if he takes them to the grave and he doesn't need the money.  Many more of the big collectors are similar to this line of thinking rather than the "need money gotta sell attitude!"

Just FYI but dude was taking a new job in April and probably won't take anymore orders for a long time, and most of the big titles already went.

http://atariage.com/forums/topic/263358-interest-check-turbografx-boxed-and-complete-games/

[Gentlegamer]

Never seen you post at AtariAge, not surprising you just lurk/leech the marketplace forum.

[jonebone]

Never seen you post at AtariAge, not surprising you just lurk/leech the marketplace forum.

I have friends that keep an eye out for me   I do not browse AA and never will.  Browsing here is bad enough

[Lost Monkey]

Never seen you post at AtariAge, not surprising you just lurk/leech the marketplace forum.

[Necromancer]

A forum leech piece of shit?  You don't say. 

[Gentlegamer]

Never seen you post at AtariAge, not surprising you just lurk/leech the marketplace forum.

I have friends that keep an eye out for me   I do not browse AA and never will.  Browsing here is bad enough

Necro should help you out so don't have to anymore.

[sirhcman]

This thread is about 15 years too late, the crash already happened.

[spenoza]

Why the hostility? Did I miss something? Did jonebone do anything other than have a contrary opinion?

[sirhcman]

Why the hostility? Did I miss something? Did jonebone do anything other than have a contrary opinion?

He flips product on ebay for prices that many here don't agree with