TG16/PCE cd archives

[nodtveidt]

...is this a joke? If it is, it's not a funny one, and if it's not a joke... dude... it's 2014... this shit is not only commonplace, it's f*cking old-school nowadays. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together and a CD burner (which has been standard equipment on PCs for like the last 10 years) can make backups of their own discs that run fine on the real thing, especially on a forum like this where there are so many very knowledgeable people, not to mention people like myself, Arkhan, Bonknuts, TheOldMan, NightWolve, touko... people who know the special format left, right, backwards, upside-down, sideways, diagonal, and inserted into the anus of a forest boar carcass and served with toast. Something like this might have worked 15 years ago, when the internet was still relatively new and people didn't know any better.

[Ninja16608]

...is this a joke? If it is, it's not a funny one, and if it's not a joke... dude... it's 2014... this shit is not only commonplace, it's f*cking old-school nowadays. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together and a CD burner (which has been standard equipment on PCs for like the last 10 years) can make backups of their own discs that run fine on the real thing, especially on a forum like this where there are so many very knowledgeable people, not to mention people like myself, Arkhan, Bonknuts, TheOldMan, NightWolve, touko... people who know the special format left, right, backwards, upside-down, sideways, diagonal, and inserted into the anus of a forest boar carcass and served with toast. Something like this might have worked 15 years ago, when the internet was still relatively new and people didn't know any better.

While all this is true, there are still people out there who can not do it.

[Keith Courage]

is this for CDRs or good professionnal pressed CDs?

[Ninja16608]

is this for CDRs or good professionnal pressed CDs?

I have looked into pressed cd's and the prices are fairly cheap. I'm just not sure if a pressing plant would handle a smaller order, I think 100 was a minimum I found and it was around a dollar a disk plain (no text on silver) and a little extra for printed surface that would have to be done.

[toymachine78]

Ive never tried to back up my games, but I do not have a PC to do it with anyway. Our house is completely tablets and mobile hardware. Besides I'm too damn lazy to take the time and trial and error to do it anyway. I'd rather spend that time playing with my kids or playing the actual game. Thats why i was interested.

On the other hand, I'm not down for being fined or prosecuted for a turbo game either. I'm just glad someone around here keeps up with the law regarding such things.

I think I'll go put on some Priest now.... Breakin' the law, Breakin' the law!

[TheOldMan]

Since Rover brought me up by name, I guess I'll put in my two cents....

While all this is true, there are still people out there who can not do it.

There are people who can't rob banks, either. Does that mean it's okay to do it for them?

As far as copyright law, yes you can make a complete backup copy, and it is legal.
My question is, how to you duplicate the unreadable tracks on a cd?
If you are producing a cd without that information, it is a derivative work (not a backup), and subject to prosecution.

As a developer, Yes I have talked to copyright lawyers about such things. It's amazing how many people
think that section grants them the right to produce copies, when its intent is to allow preservation of the software owners rights. You can only use the backup copy if/when the original is no longer useable. And it must be a 1-1 copy of the original.

Should you decide to provide this 'service', you should be aware that your client, purchasing your service, is also operating under the assumption that your sevice is a legal one, and will produce a correct backup. Should it not be so, you are liable for any damages, not your client. He was purchasing your service in good faith that you would produce a legal copy.


So my lawyer says....

[GohanX]

"You should post this at pcenginefx.com, they may be more receptive there."

They see me trollin', they hatin'

[Bernie]

I see no monies coming your way...  Especially when folks like myself, will do this for the community for free.  Guess these are desperate times.... 

[Ninja16608]

I see no monies coming your way...  Especially when folks like myself, will do this for the community for free.  Guess these are desperate times.... 

It was never about the money, and no times are not desperate, I live quite comfy thank you. Seeing as how you do this for free just means you have more money than me, unfortunately I am not in a position where I can pay for cds (pressed or CDR), pay for mailing, etc. and if you do it for free then why are people still asking me about them? maybe they should talk to you. Yes I did come here on the suggestion of someone from another forum, I have been a member here for a long time (just reading) and I didn't think  it was a huge deal to make a mention that I knew how to do it and was willing to do for others like toymachine who in his case has no PC, and as far as TheOldMan says I'm not looking to cause legal troubles for anyone myself included, I'm no lawyer but reading that copyright section its seems that any "copy" holder of the copyright works can have one made and it does not have to be copied by the copyright owner?? Maybe I was mislead by the section 117?.

[Lochlan]

Times are not desperate, I live quite comfy thank you...I am not in a position where I can pay for cds (pressed or CDR), pay for mailing, etc.

Living in comfort, can't afford to mail CD-Rs.

I have been a member here for a long time (just reading)

Date Registered: April 09, 2013, 03:03:51 PM

This thread delivers!

[nodtveidt]

Well, that's almost a year, that's a long time by some measures.

[Ninja16608]

Times are not desperate, I live quite comfy thank you...I am not in a position where I can pay for cds (pressed or CDR), pay for mailing, etc.

Living in comfort, can't afford to mail CD-Rs.

I have been a member here for a long time (just reading)

Date Registered: April 09, 2013, 03:03:51 PM

This thread delivers!

Let me guess......umm your 29......um live in your parents basement....have no real bills of your own....and probably have no kids, wife, etc... am I close??? no that couldn't be it...

Lets see....I'm 39 two kids, two cars, two Harley's, a mortgage, car and bike insurance, oh here's a big one homeowners insurance, water bill, light bill, gas bill to heat my water and home, the list goes on...I am by no means a cheap ass but my real life comes first.

Hmmm

[Bernie]

Lol. 

[Sparky]

I have more than my fair share of real life problems and I don't let comments from people I don't know get to me.

Hahaha..

[Lochlan]

Give in to your anger!