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Trenton_net

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Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« on: April 06, 2014, 11:54:31 AM »
Hey Everyone,

I know that some games can use the Arcade Card to enhance them, but are not required. Does anyone know what kind of enhancements one can expect when using the card vs without? Some games I've heard that can use the card are as follows:

+ 3 x 3 Eyes Sanjiyan Hensei
+ Atlas (The) - Renaissance Voyager
+ Brandish
+ Eikan Wa Kimini
+ Formation Soccer '95
+ Gulliver Boy
+ J. League Tremendous Soccer '94
+ Linda Cube
+ Mahjong Sword Princess Quest Gaiden
+ Popful Mail
+ Princess Maker 2
+ Private Eye Doll
+ Sexy Idol Mahjong Fashion Monogatari
+ Sotsugyou II Neo Generation
+ Super Real Mahjong P II & III Custom
+ Super Real Mahjong P V Custom
+ Tanjou Debut
+ Vasteel 2
+ Wrestling Angels Double Impact

Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2014, 01:12:35 PM »
Doesn't it improve the load times for all CD games?

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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2014, 01:36:34 PM »
Makes them Super Duper CD games.  :)

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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2014, 02:09:07 PM »
Yeah, mostly it loads a bigger bunch of graphic data into the AC to obtain longer, uninterrupted and smoothened cut scenes.
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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2014, 02:15:27 PM »
Also unlocks programmers' commentary and deleted scenes w/naughty bits.
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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2014, 03:47:11 PM »
Also unlocks programmers' commentary and deleted scenes w/naughty bits.

That'd bee hilarious. *buzz zabuzz*

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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2014, 04:19:48 PM »
Yeah, mostly it loads a bigger bunch of graphic data into the AC to obtain longer, uninterrupted and smoothened cut scenes.

Ah, I was hoping it added more frames of animation to in-game playing or something. But it does sound like cut scenes are the easiest to improve.

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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2014, 07:16:52 PM »
Usually it just decreases loading times. In the case of 3 x 3 Eyes however the cinematics are at a higher quality with added CD music, but with pretty long loading times.

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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2014, 01:35:49 AM »
I seem to recall reading something a long while ago about Princess Maker 2 actually being slower loading with Arcade Card than with a Super System Card.
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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2014, 03:01:43 AM »
If I remember right, for Vasteel 2 it adds ADPCM sound fx...I wonder how that worked, maybe the 64k ADPCM memory was used for code/graphics, so when the ACD was used the 64k was freed up to add cool ADPCM sndfx,

When ever talk of bi compatable games come up, im always made sad that the fact Macross 2036 is only a 64k regular cd game, even with a puny 64k memory, its able to put out levels with 3 or 4 distinct BGs, 4 huge beautifully animated bosses, player ship with 2 distinctive sprites each one very well animated, a large number of distinct and impressive ADPCM sndfx, and ingame cutscenes, where the cartoon is pasted on top of the action.....that's only one meg of memory, think if you had 5 megs of fu##ing memory, kinda gets me thinking, I cant think of a single optimized cdrom side scrolling action game, like rondo of blood,(2 load times per level) so I wonder what a optimized cdrom rondo of blood would be like.

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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2014, 04:35:58 AM »
I seem to recall reading something a long while ago about Princess Maker 2 actually being slower loading with Arcade Card than with a Super System Card.

Is this for cinematics or regular gameplay? If it's for cinematics, it's most likely to add CD quality music along with voices. Usually, a PC Engine game is unable to have both CD voices and music at the same time unless you merge them together(which means you wouldn't be able to use that music track for other situations) but the Arcade Card's huge amount of RAM allows a bi-compatible game to store the voices on there and stream the music. This does add longer loading times though.

When ever talk of bi compatable games come up, im always made sad that the fact Macross 2036 is only a 64k regular cd game, even with a puny 64k memory, its able to put out levels with 3 or 4 distinct BGs, 4 huge beautifully animated bosses, player ship with 2 distinctive sprites each one very well animated, a large number of distinct and impressive ADPCM sndfx, and ingame cutscenes, where the cartoon is pasted on top of the action.....that's only one meg of memory, think if you had 5 megs of fu##ing memory, kinda gets me thinking, I cant think of a single optimized cdrom side scrolling action game, like rondo of blood,(2 load times per level) so I wonder what a optimized cdrom rondo of blood would be like.

Macross 2036 is kind of a strange case. It was technically a 64k CD game, but why slap the Super CD logo on there? Is it a CD/SCD bi-compatible game? If it isn't, it's up there along with Spriggan as the most impressive 64k CD games.

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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2014, 06:18:32 AM »
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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2014, 08:04:05 AM »
Here is what happens with 3x3 Eyes:

http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/3x3_eyes_acd_vs_scd_beta.avi


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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2014, 10:00:30 AM »
Here is what happens with 3x3 Eyes:

http://www.superpcenginegrafx.net/3x3_eyes_acd_vs_scd_beta.avi


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People usually only have trouble with videos in my webspace when they try opening them in a browser. Should work fine if you download it.

Getting the 404 error...and what happened to your Youtube??  :(
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Re: Arcade Card - Game enhancement?
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2014, 05:06:22 PM »
Link seems dead to me.