Turbo Obsessed

[esteban]

but games like vigilante and china warrior although they aren't good, they make you wanna play them and try and beat them. regardless of how bad. thats the appeal of the system

Oh, I agree 100% that Vigilante and China Warrior are addictive and "make you wanna play them and try and beat them"...but I actually feel that China Warrior is an intriguing game, warts and all. China Warrior was much more challenging than Vigilante and beating it provided much more satisfaction.

I honestly feel that China Warrior is the superior game...CW's only flaws, IMHO, are some of the boss fights. The stages in CW are completely awesome (for me, anyway) even though the opponents are mundane objects. In other words: the stages in CW were thoughtfully designed (with a ramp up in difficulty). There are challenging segments, sure, but they are totally passable with some practice.  I do not feel the same way about the bosses, plus you can be lame and spam many bosses (you can't cheat/spam the stages proper). The controls/mechanics in CW are fine, plus you actually need to use different moves at different points (sweep kick, normal punch/kick, low punch/kick, special moves BIG FIST/FISTS OF FURY)...again, all of this points to thoughtful design.

The jump kick in Vigilante always annoyed me because I couldn't consistently knock the bikers off their motorcycles on the bridge. Slower opponents—I can jump kick 'em, but I suck with the bikers. This is just one of many moments in Vigilante where I wish the controls were tighter. I don't have the same problem in China Warrior. I don't feel the stage design/enemy placement in Vigilante is nearly as thoughtful as CW, either.

God, if only CW had the aesthetic creativity of Vigilante. CW really would have benefitted from varied settings like Vigilante. This is where Vigilante shines: every stage is memorable (bridge! Junkyard, even the dam streets have cute, hand-lain bricks scattered everywhere). CW's banal, generic, constantly recycled visuals get old fast (at least each stages cycle from dawn to dusk). At the end of the day, though, CW is the superior game.

I'll stop now (I've argued in defense of CW elsewhere).

 

[Keith Courage]

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but games like vigilante and china warrior although they aren't good, they make you wanna play them and try and beat them. regardless of how bad. thats the appeal of the system

No trash talking vigilante. Vigilante is awesome!

I beat it every time I play it and it's still fun.

[wildfruit]

For a true answer ask a child.
I asked my son why he likes turbo.
"the colours" damn straight

[MrFlutterPie]

I discovered the Turbo on a whim in the winter of 08 (Late bloomer I know)  I too fall in love with it immediately.  It has such a strong arcade feeling to it.  Fast pick up and play games.  I've often referred to it as "All of the gaming and none of the Bullshit"  It feels like i can clear a level or 2 of Ninja Spirit before I can even start playing a modern game (logos, sign in etc.)

It plays more like 8 Bit games but with a 16 bit window dressing.  I like the simplicity.  I also feel like the games often have a Eastern influence which make the games feel more unique and interesting.

It truly is only 8bit :-) they got away with calling it 16 due to having an independent video processor.

I referring to the style of games and not the actual hardware

[Punch]

True 16 bit!!!!!! Actual gameplay footage!!!!!!

[esteban]

True 16 bit!!!!!! Actual gameplay footage!!!!!!

Holy crap, I love the voice in that game. I never have played any games with the voice module (just a bare bones Intellivision).

The game itself seems decent, if repetitive.

[EvilEvoIX]

or do you all feel it is far superior than most systems in fun.

Yeah, basically. The hardware is better than the Genesis, the software is more varied and innovative than the SNES, and the gameplay spans the best of both 8- and 16-bit eras. I enjoy other consoles, but the TG16 is my "desert island" system.

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.  The turbo certainly has a mistique as what only 2 million systems sold vs 40 million plus on the US genesis so yeah rarity adds exclusivity.

[Tatsujin]

maybe 2 millions in USoA, but around 6 to 7 millions in Japan, which outranked the MD by a landslide.

also who is looking to USoA or Europe sales, when there was only underpowered sports shit and silly jump'n runs etc. made in the west?

[EvilEvoIX]

People who compare "bits" remind me of those who think a big spoiler helps a car go faster. Everyone knows that the wheels and under lighting are what make a car go fast.

p.s. how many bits was the intellivision again?

Wings on cars especially those that are not for show, donindeed help cars go faster.  Short answer being they add downforce and stability, so you can corner faster or keep traction over the wheels.  In my Evo it has a zero lift kit so after 70 there isn't any lift, the rear wing keeps the ass planted.  If I pull the ring off yeah I'll go faster in a straight line but it gets sloppy at higher speeds.  F1 the cars would just fly off the track without wings it isn't even a debate.

[EvilEvoIX]

maybe 2 millions in USoA, but around 6 to 7 millions in Japan, which outranked the MD by a landslide.

also who is looking to USoA or Europe sales, when there was only underpowered sports shit and silly jump'n runs etc. made in the west?

or do you all feel it is far superior than most systems in fun.

Yeah, basically. The hardware is better than the Genesis, the software is more varied and innovative than the SNES, and the gameplay spans the best of both 8- and 16-bit eras. I enjoy other consoles, but the TG16 is my "desert island" system.

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.  The turbo certainly has a mistique as what only 2 million systems sold vs 40 million plus on the US genesis so yeah rarity adds exclusivity.

Oh yeah US numbers i am talking.  I thought the PCE sold more than that in Japan.  Here is a list of sales figures compiled so far, including sources:
Genesis (North America) - 20 million
Mega Drive (Japan) - 4.3 million
Mega Drive (Europe) - 6.9 million
Mega Drive (Brazil) - 2 million+
Genesis 3 (North America) - 2 million
Nomad (North America) - 1 million
Mega Drive (Other Regions) - 3.5 million
This brings the total sold worldwide to around 39.7 million. The most widely-quoted figure of 29 million total units sold must therefore be inaccurate, as this new figure has been compiled from various sources rather than just one.  The genesis is and was common as dirt do games for the system are cheap as hell as well as cheap systems.  Turbo was always harder for me to get although I did get a turbo express about 20 years ago.  It came with Vigilante.  I loved that game FYI, and the turbo as well.  I'm bliwing through turbo cd games at the moment, it's all new to me.  Sega stuff is old hat and that was the system I had including sega cd, hell I had a jaguar and jag cd before any turbo stuff.  I wish it was more available.  Besides my Neo Geo AES, the turbo is my go too shooter system, god bless Steam Hearts and Anime boobies.

[HailingTheThings]

god bless Steam Hearts and Anime boobies.

I don't know about all that, but I'll sure as Hell bless it for ya.

[pceslayer]

The Atari 2600 is an 8-bit console also... :/

I have been obsessed with Turbo since I first played one in the early 90's.

<3's me some turbobs!

[Necromancer]

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.

Same old dipshit. 

[EvilEvoIX]

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.

Same old dipshit. 

Anyone who argues pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16bit era is the dipshit   There are no blanket statements here, just preferences that said I know what site this is and I'll move on.

People who compare "bits" remind me of those who think a big spoiler helps a car go faster. Everyone knows that the wheels and under lighting are what make a car go fast.

p.s. how many bits was the intellivision again?

Wings on cars especially those that are not for show, donindeed help cars go faster.  Short answer being they add downforce and stability, so you can corner faster or keep traction over the wheels.  In my Evo it has a zero lift kit so after 70 there isn't any lift, the rear wing keeps the ass planted.  If I pull the ring off yeah I'll go faster in a straight line but it gets sloppy at higher speeds.  F1 the cars would just fly off the track without wings it isn't even a debate.

So you're telling me that this local celebrity's pimped out '87 Cavalier can achieve a top speed faster than 87 MPH thanks to its spoiler?



Based on your argument, that is exactly what you're saying.  Its no wonder the 16-bit moniker gives you such a boner.  And you called spoilers "wings", and speak of handling in response to a statement purely about velocity.  Obviously you're a fan of blast processing.  I've never chimed in much on your laughable understanding of all matters technical, but I've always laughed behind my screen at your expense.  Now I'm doing it with my keyboard.

* nullity points and laughs...

The picture of that Turd mobile is just to make people laugh I hope, that guy cannot be serious.  That said wings on cars ABSOLUTELY make them faster or at least not have to slow down as much.  I know you generalized above without a shred of understanding so let me break it down for you so that yes even you can understand.  Obviously you are angry but if you think a proper wing on a sports car is just for show you are incredibly ignorant.  Granted that POS above does almost nothing as it is a Pep Boys special but it does actually put down-force on the rear so better traction in a left/right/left maneuver as well as absolute grip and so on.  That car is such a POS however the suspension will probably yaw and roll tremendously to negate those gains, moving on.   It isn't a performance car in the least and adding that wing yes as stated before will do almost nothing.   That Camaro is simply a show piece, to who I will never know.

For automotive aerodynamics please look up terms like Down-force, traction, lateral acceleration drag CE, Contact patch, and so on.  With a wing a Formula 1 car can pull close to 4 G's in a corner, not possible without a wing, so guess what that car went faster around a track with a wing, sorry thems' called physics yah heard?  More traction means faster acceleration as well, ever see a Drag car with a Giant wing on the back, for show?  Are we making things up to sound smart?  In fact them fancy F1 cars could drive upside-down against gravity at enough speed, and being able to stick to a track at near 200MPH while pulling close to 4 G's in a corner is purely an aerodynamic affair and no amount of rubber could accomplish that, but you knew that already as you laugh nervously behind your keyboard.

Street cars?  Wings do indeed help to a lesser degree, that Active Areo on a McLaren MP4-12c really helps but your understanding of of Automotive engineering and Aero Dynamics obviously stops with those pictures above and your Blast Processing remark leads me to believe that you are indeed biased and won't listen to reason so here is a nice video to enjoy.  Porsche relies heavily on a automated rear wing for down-force, handling, and cooling and have done so for decades, I'm willing to bet they know a little more than you but thanks for playing.  Just stick to your turbo playing, laugh all you want in your ignorance but if you can admit to yourself you are wrong believe me you'll feel better

[Black Tiger]

Better than the Genesis.......  I think the Turbo does Turbo games best, the genesis does genesis games best, and so on.  A decidedly blanket statement is silly.

Same old dipshit. 

Anyone who argues pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16bit era is the dipshit   There are no blanket statements here, just preferences that said I know what site this is and I'll move on.

I agree with this statement. But Necromancer's comment was influenced by your long history across forums, of making relentless blanket statements arguing declaring pure superiority within the 8-bit or 16-bit era.