Turbo Obsessed

[EvilEvoIX]

But basically how much information you can move at any given moment and how fast that process can be repeated.

You really just have no clue, do you?

Please Google these terms to improve your understanding, so you won't sound like such a twat:
Data Bus
Clock Speed
Address Space
Humility

Regards,
An Engineer

Let's see shall we? 

Clock Speed "The operating speed of a computer or its microprocessor, defined as the rate at which it performs internal operations and expressed in cycles per second"  Hmm, oh you mean how fast the microprocessor executes each instruction?  Oh and the faster the clock, the more instructions the CPU can execute per second, so how much work is DONE within a certain time and fast that work is done.   I could have sworn I just posted that, yet you took offense. 

Moving on....

A Databus may refer to a computer subsystem that allows for the transferring of data from one component to another on a motherboard or system board, or between two computers. This can include transferring data to and from the memory, or from the central processing unit (CPU) to other components. Each one is designed to handle so many bits of data at a time. The amount of data a data bus can handle is called bandwidth.

A typical data bus is 32-bits wide. This means that up to 32 bits of data can travel through a data bus every second. Newer computers are making data buses that can handle 64-bit and even 96-bit data paths. At the same time they are making data buses to handle more bits, they are also making devices that can handle those higher bitrates.  Windows is corrently working on a 128 BIT OS but I already emailed Bill Gates and asked him why he isn't using the vastly superior 8-Bit architecture as obviously he should have known this and is very stupid.


A Typical Bus is 32-bits?  My computer is 64 Bits?  Who needs that shit why isn't it 8-BITS!!!!  Everyone on gods green earth knows that a 8-bit machine included with a 48 Bit bios revision from the Arcade Card Duo indeed outperforms all bit types including today's 64 BIT machines.  Maybe not 128 Bit lemy get back to you.


Address space

Ohhh this one is easy, essential the size of someones home or "Dwelling" is an Address Space.  The American Indians liked to use the term "Adobe" for their "Address Space" and I hope you do too.   

According to U.S. Census reports, the Median and Average Square Feet of Floor Area in New Single-Family Houses here in the United States has been calculated at 2,169 Square Feet.  This is sadly a drop from 2005 of nearly 2,500 as the Financial meltdown caused a lot of people to loose homes, homes in which they programed and loved 8-Bit devices in.  This is probably why people have been using inferior 32 and 64 Bit work stations and may take many year before they upgrade to 8-bit devices once again.  Overall, however, this is a big growth from 1973 where the Average Square foot of an Address Space was just 1500 Square feet so progress is progress I suppose.

This was fun ask me more!

[tggodfrey]

dont worry Nullity, Evo, DSM, & Honda owners typically know far less than they lead you to believe which is why the claim to know so much around those who know less.  What you typically find is they parrot theory discussed in their favorite import tuner mag or info they read of the internet while swinging from Dave Burschur's nuts.

[EvilEvoIX]

Let's see shall we?  Clock Speed "The operating speed of a computer or its microprocessor, defined as the rate at which it performs internal operations and expressed in cycles per second"  Hmm, oh you mean how fast the microprocessor executes each instruction?  Oh and the faster the clock, the more instructions the CPU can execute per second, so how much work is DONE within a certain time and fast that work is done.   I could have sworn I just posted that, yet you took offense. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth

By that logic, you'd think that an 8-bit CPU @ 7.16 MHz would do less "instructions" than a mighty 16-bit CPU @ 7.61 MHz that had TWICE the bits and 450 MOAR HERTZ, wouldn't you?  Let's look at the TRUEF!

[ul][li]Turbob
[ul][li]8-bit CPU @ 7.16 MHz[/li][li]1.5 MIPS[/li][/ul][/li][li]Genepiss
[ul][li]16-bit CPU @ 7.61 MHz[/li][li]0.96 MIPS[/li][/ul][/li][/ul]
Also for reference, I found some nice quotes for ya on this wikishmedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoiler_%28automotive%29

The term "spoiler" is often mistakenly used interchangeably with "wing". An automotive wing is a special type of spoiler whose intended design is to generate downforce as air passes around it, not simply disrupt existing airflow patterns

Some spoilers are added to cars primarily for styling purposes and have either little aerodynamic benefit or even make the aerodynamics worse.

So yes, you edumacated me good on wings, but I was talking about the pep boys spoiler thing. So ya can't really bust my chops for the terminology change to "horsepower and torque" since you had changed subjects on me.    Regardless, it lends 0 credence to your BIT supremacy complex (which is why I took your bait to begin with.  I give 0 f*cks about cars or spoilers or wings (except for chicken wings, i loves me some of them)).

What I find amusing is that you're now espousing a point of view that each console has its strengths and weaknesses, and nobody disagrees with that.  But what got you brownlisted here was that you would argue the case in favor of the Genesis against the strengths of the Turbob despite evidence that directly contradicted your claims.

Whatever, though.  I don't really care.  Just an observation.

Don't put words in my mouth and invent an new argument, I merely answered a general term on clock speed, you brought it back to the OH so tired yet oh so entertaining which system is bettereror fasterorist besters.  My comment was a simple comment on clock speed and only clock speed.  Get a letter, write out your feelings, and mail it back to 1989 if you wish to carry that tune on mips jesus christ.

As for wings now....

I think you give a lot of f*cks about cars with wings, you seem to keep going back to that subject and keep tabs on the people in your town who has them.  You were so confident in your hatred of said wings you maid an improper blanket statement and well I proved you wrong, get over it.

 Brownlisted, by who, you?  Who gives a shit?   There are three people who parrot the same broken record shit to me over and over again like it means something and much less they mean something, you are now the 4th.   I swear all these people think that they have some sort of internet power and authority, you have nothing, you can do nothing but protest and call me names but that's it.

Back to CPU Talk, if you wana do a DIRECT comparison between the two systems as a WHOLE I will be more than happy but it has been done to death, anything stated to give the Mighty MD a point is dismissed and then the comparison between CD games vs Carts comes out and no one has an issue with that.  I know what site this is, I know which way people lean and have a MASSIVE hard-on for.  It' just silly is all it is.

[EvilEvoIX]

dont worry Nullity, Evo, DSM, & Honda owners typically know far less than they lead you to believe which is why the claim to know so much around those who know less.  What you typically find is they parrot theory discussed in their favorite import tuner mag or info they read of the internet while swinging from Dave Burschur's nuts.

Don't put me in the same category as the Honduh crew.  DSM's are great yet aging platform and my Evo has over 500WHP so it's not the end all be all but it's fast enough.

[tggodfrey]

No your right the Honda owners have actually learned a lot and can hold a competant discussion on engine building and chassis design.  500WHP on an evo is a simple and a turbo upgrade, Fuel injector upgrade and ECU flash w/e85.  Its been done by millions long before you came along chumbly. 

The DSM platform has always been a shit platform.  the 4g63 cannot hold itself together for anything.  less than 5 people have managed to put a DSM into the 8's without having to rebuild the engine every other run. Our own resident chicagoan Yusef Behic hasnt been able to hold a head gasket for more than a couple runs and last I checked he was putting out 900WHP.

[EvilEvoIX]

No your right the Honda owners have actually learned a lot and can hold a competant discussion on engine building and chassis design.  500WHP on an evo is a simple and a turbo upgrade, Fuel injector upgrade and ECU flash w/e85.  Its been done by millions long before you came along chumbly. 

E85?  If I were running that I would be at 600WHP, I'm on 93 octane only son.  I have had 2 Evo's since 2003 so I'm pretty up on the platform.  Rods tend to bend at the 400-450 Pound feet of torque but you obviously knew that.  500WHP RELIABLY on a pump gas car with very quick spool is nothing to sneeze at sir, but yeah any "Tooner" can make 500WHP on E85.

DSM Shit platform?  It may not be the best but it is certainly an over achiever.  Back in the 90's I had a 95 TSI AWD with a FP Green and I would rip up LS1's, they had no idea especially with an AWD launch.  Breaking stuff?  I never did, but you better believe you can shatter a transfer case or strip a gear if you are not careful.  Most people can send a rod right through the block if they get too lean but I kept it simple, Reliability, acceleration, top speed, in that order.

Oh and calling a 4G63 a weak engine, especially when a 1G DSM version has gone 9's at over 140MPH on stock rods and block is just silly but i think you know that, it's an excellent platform and VERY inexpensive, not 80's 5.0 cheap but getting there.

[tggodfrey]

for an EVO thats plenty to sneeze at.  Thats like saying a Supra putting down 800WHP is a lot.......

[EvilEvoIX]

for an EVO thats plenty to sneeze at.  Thats like saying a Supra putting down 800WHP is a lot.......

There's always somebody with more money and more power.  I you have enough you can pick up a mid 2000's Gallardo send it off to underground racing and get 1800WHP.  How long will it last?  Who knows but my god is it fast.

[Necromancer]

Evos are junk.  Decent mechanicals but everything else about the car belongs in an '82 Tercel.

And no doubt trollevo is still slow as molasses.  There's no replacement for a driver mod.

[tggodfrey]

Evos are junk.  Decent mechanicals but everything else about the car belongs in an '82 Tercel.

And no doubt trollevo is still slow as molasses.  There's no replacement for a driver mod.

Which is why you see them being parted out and junked as much as the DSMs are these days.  I can fit what he knows about engine and chassis building in the corner of my palm and still have room for a ring and pinion.  Probably why he chose an Evo, its easier to blend in with the rest of the nut swingers, parrot what you read of the net and go unnoticed.   

[wildfruit]

My 1.6 focus has 115ps. Zoom zoom. does 60mpg on a good run. Yay!

[EvilEvoIX]

Evos are junk.  Decent mechanicals but everything else about the car belongs in an '82 Tercel.

And no doubt trollevo is still slow as molasses.  There's no replacement for a driver mod.

Now your just hating, no body likes a hater.  The Evo "Surprise" is not a luxury car, it has nice Recaro seats and a kick ass drive train but yes that's it.

Don't put words in my mouth and invent an new argument, I merely answered a general term on clock speed, you brought it back to the OH so tired yet oh so entertaining which system is bettereror fasterorist besters.  My comment was a simple comment on clock speed and only clock speed.  Get a letter, write out your feelings, and mail it back to 1989 if you wish to carry that tune on mips jesus christ.

But you were dead f*cking wrong on your assessment of what exactly a clock speed is, that's all I was saying. Not my fault that a perfect case example involved Obey vs Nobey. Didya know that instructions per clock are not 1:1 across architectures? Didya know that your dismissal of facts and accurate information as "whining" only confirm what I (and many others) have been saying about you?

Did you even read what I wrote?  Why are you still bitching?  You are grasping at straws right now and it's embarrassing.  My god the argument keeps changing and I don't even think you know wha you are arguing about.  Go read what I wrote about Address Space that'll clear things up.

Evos are junk.  Decent mechanicals but everything else about the car belongs in an '82 Tercel.

And no doubt trollevo is still slow as molasses.  There's no replacement for a driver mod.

Which is why you see them being parted out and junked as much as the DSMs are these days.  I can fit what he knows about engine and chassis building in the corner of my palm and still have room for a ring and pinion.  Probably why he chose an Evo, its easier to blend in with the rest of the nut swingers, parrot what you read of the net and go unnoticed.

Ah yes the internet commando.  Someone looking to flex his E dick, making shit up and victories in his head.  Claiming to know more based on the fact one guy likes a certain type of car, Sir you are a silly goose and a hater....

[InfraMan]

I know piss-all about cars.

I was very pleased with myself when I managed to change out the headlight on my wife's VW Beetle.

[tggodfrey]

ITs out resident DSM owner!!!!  Must be before he ate dunkin doughnuts out of munchkins.

[Necromancer]

16 bit                                                                          8bit


Clearly bits matter.