Author Topic: I'm pretty sure I just got a sweet ass deal here!! (Read 1604 times)

Keranu · « **Reply #15 on:** May 15, 2006, 10:26:26 AM »

Well after I won the auction, I observed the image of Bonk 3 CD better and clearly noticed the front cover saying PCECP.COM on the bottom right hand side. I immediately notified the seller about it and asked if the game was original and complete and he responded back saying the game didn't have instructions and he would cancel the auction if I wasn't interested. I then checked www.tzd.com to see if they had instructions for Bonk 3 CD for sale and luckily they do, so I contacted the seller back asking if the case is original and contains the side and back inserts, so if it is all good, I'll continue buying the game from him and purchase the instructions from TZD. I'll let you know how it goes.

EDIT: And oh yeah, Dracula X ended for $51 I think.

FM-77 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 15, 2006, 12:08:36 PM »

Did you ask him if it comes with an original disc?

incrediblehark · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2006, 12:24:05 PM »

Hey guys, those auctions were definitely for boots, I have been watching them since the start, and I noticed the same thing as keranu the pcecp in the corner. also isn't it funny there is no shot of the actual disc? and theres a stack of cdr on top of the tgcd unit in some of the pics. I reported these listings to ebay back when they started but got no results. I really hope if anyone here won and already paid that they can get a refund from paypal.

P.S.: sorry about not posting earlier, i was waiting for my conf. email

Keranu · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2006, 01:36:51 PM »

Incrediblehark, are you the same person that contacted me on eBay as well

? I sent you a reply and I hope the game is all legit.

esteban · « **Reply #19 on:** May 15, 2006, 01:49:07 PM »

Quote from: "incrediblehark"

Hey guys, those auctions were definitely for boots, I have been watching them since the start, and I noticed the same thing as keranu the pcecp in the corner. also isn't it funny there is no shot of the actual disc? and theres a stack of cdr on top of the tgcd unit in some of the pics. I reported these listings to ebay back when they started but got no results. I really hope if anyone here won and already paid that they can get a refund from paypal.

P.S.: sorry about not posting earlier, i was waiting for my conf. email

Hey, thanks for the scoop

. We should start a new thread (we've had several in the past) that warned folks of sellers who looked "dodgy". Now, that doesn't mean that everyone we discuss is a scammer. Rather, it means that the seller(s) in question use tactics that are undesirable and cause for alarm.

Personally, the fact that this seller had "0" feedback was enough for me to pass. Too bad we can't connect him to his past history with ebay (to see if he was selling bootlegs under a different name and had to start a new account due to negative feedback).

Keranu and cave: I'd ask for photos of the discs -- BOTH OF THEM IN ONE PHOTO... as long as the seller doesn't have photoshop skills, he'll have to provide real evidence to assuage our fears

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cavein2000 · « **Reply #20 on:** May 15, 2006, 02:06:26 PM »

Keranu and cave: I'd ask for photos of the discs -- BOTH OF THEM IN ONE PHOTO... as long as the seller doesn't have photoshop skills, he'll have to provide real evidence to assuage our fears

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Wasn't me

incrediblehark · « **Reply #21 on:** May 15, 2006, 03:56:49 PM »

Keranu: no it wasn't me, I almost did contact the ebay members who were bidding but I actually believed (foolishly) that ebay would handle the matter. There was another ebayer some months back from U.K. who was selling boots of Drac X (seems to be a common boot on ebay) and Dynastic Hero US. Even though those ones had a low BIN, the guy was clearly trying to pull a fast one. I have no problem with people selling backups of PCE CD games, as long as its clearly stated.

BTW Keranu, your name sounds familiar to me, used to be in the PCE Hub by any chance?

Keranu · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2006, 05:04:46 PM »

This seller is definitely sounding like a scammer now, here is his latest response:

"first of all you need to look at the description BEFORE you start bidding. I am 100% sure you will never get the original case for a game thats over 15 years old and in fact I its a slim chance that you will find a original copy of the game either this game is VERY hard to come by and you are being picky so what i would do is send you you money back as soon as it hit the back. Please SIR dont waste my time. Again you WILL get your money back its not that serious. send your address to my personal e-mail address this how serious I am barnesjl33@comcast.net I not trying to jip anyone"

I have been really friendly with him in my messages, even my one replying this this one, but I find this message on the rude side. He didn't really answer my question asking of the case was real, so I mentioned it again alone with reminding him again if the actual game was real. I told him if they weren't, he can go ahead and refund my order. Also, I didn't give him my address.

Quote from: "incrediblehark"

BTW Keranu, your name sounds familiar to me, used to be in the PCE Hub by any chance?

As in Jammaniaclord's PCE Entity Hub

? Yep, I used to go there for awhile and now your name is sounding awfully familar as well

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incrediblehark · « **Reply #23 on:** May 15, 2006, 05:23:54 PM »

yes thats it. I thought I knew you from somewhere

so you sent payment by paypal? and he wants to send back through the mail? And then this "refund" will conveniently get lost in the mail. I love how he dodges a simple question and then gets angry at you for asking it. pretty typical scammer stuff. If you did pay with paypal, I really hope you can get a refund. $80 may not be a lot of money for some people to lose out on, but it sure is for me.

merriman_bk · « **Reply #24 on:** May 15, 2006, 06:04:48 PM »

What course of action should I take, I'm in the same boat as Keranu and I haven't even talked to the guy.

Keranu · « **Reply #25 on:** May 15, 2006, 07:45:33 PM »

I hope he refunds my money on Pay Pal as well. My Pay Pal account sends e-checks, so it usually takes a few days to clear and it hasn't cleared yet. Maybe I can cancel it before he is even able to refund?

FM-77 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 16, 2006, 12:25:32 AM »

Just file an "item not recieved" -- PayPal will refund the money for you.

esteban · « **Reply #27 on:** May 16, 2006, 03:17:47 AM »

Oooops, sorry cavein, I mixed you up with merriman_uk!

Keranu -- immediately take steps via ebay AND paypal. At the very least, write a short letter documenting what happened (i.e. the seller is advertising a genuine product but actually selling a bootleg) and how this matter can be resolved (i.e. you want to cancel the transaction immediately and get a full refund). Tell them you can provide more details, but keep your first letter short and to the point.

Make sure you keep a record of all your emails, since you will appear trustworthy when you can provide documentation to support your claims. Save all of your correspondence with the seller, paypal, ebay.

This is the minimum you should do, I'd try to stop payment (if possible) ASAP

merriman_uk -- Do the same thing as Keranu. If you didn't use paypal, take the appropriate steps (perhaps we can help?). For example, if you sent the equivalent of cash (money transfer, money order), I don't know if you have any recourse outside of ebay. In the US, money orders from the US Post Office do have some guarantees, but I'm not entirely clear on the details. That's the sort of thing that you'd have to figure out, since you are on the other side of the pond.

cavein2000 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 16, 2006, 04:41:34 AM »

geez. I didn't even notice the pcecp in on the instructions. The only reason I didn't pick up the Drac X was because didn't have a white plastic piece on the left side of the CD case and because the seller was also selling two Bonk 3s with the same image. Good eye Keranu for spotting that!!

esteban · « **Reply #29 on:** May 16, 2006, 01:11:56 PM »

Quote from: "Keranu"

This seller is definitely sounding like a scammer now, here is his latest response:

"first of all you need to look at the description BEFORE you start bidding. I am 100% sure you will never get the original case for a game thats over 15 years old and in fact I its a slim chance that you will find a original copy of the game either this game is VERY hard to come by and you are being picky so what i would do is send you you money back as soon as it hit the back. Please SIR dont waste my time. Again you WILL get your money back its not that serious. send your address to my personal e-mail address this how serious I am barnesjl33@comcast.net I not trying to jip anyone"

I have been really friendly with him in my messages, even my one replying this this one, but I find this message on the rude side. He didn't really answer my question asking of the case was real, so I mentioned it again alone with reminding him again if the actual game was real. I told him if they weren't, he can go ahead and refund my order. Also, I didn't give him my address.

Holy cow, I forgot to comment on this, since this seller is an absolute ass! The description on his auction is minimal, but he doesn't mention that he's selling CDR's with fake covers printed out from PCECP.com !!! What a bastard! And I love how he describes you as being "too picky" and claims that "15 year old games" for any console are nearly impossible to find! What a loser!