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TheClash603

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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2014, 02:06:47 PM »
I have to agree with Tats that there is easily 20 consoles that can make this list from the glory days when new shit was released every week.  Before mega corporations ruled the gaming world.

Game.com, Gizmondo, Nuon, etc.  All shit.

With that said, take away backward compatibility and it is really hard to say the SGX wasn't a terrible idea...  :)

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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2014, 12:19:02 PM »

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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2014, 12:31:47 PM »
I have to agree with Tats that there is easily 20 consoles that can make this list from the glory days when new shit was released every week.  Before mega corporations ruled the gaming world.

Game.com, Gizmondo, Nuon, etc.  All shit.

With that said, take away backward compatibility and it is really hard to say the SGX wasn't a terrible idea...  :)

It was a great idea, it was just never utilized. It's closer to Neo Geo in capability than it is to the Genesis and SNES, yet the hardware and software were affordable.

The article cites the NES and Playstation as examples of non-"retarded" consoles, which gives away the anonymous authors' retardedness immediately.

Why didn't they mention that fugly looking console with unremoveable pads, which was so quickly outdated, that most games had to ship with add-on hardware in every cart, is so difficult to get a decent picture out of decades later, the North American variant was prone to failure bitd and lost a major on-cart add-on connection, had fugly color while it was current, for years was its company's direct competitor against consoles a generaton beyond, only managed commercial success due to illegal and immoral practices worldwide and so much more...
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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2014, 12:49:21 PM »
I wouldn't mind having a SuperGrafx one day.  Just not on my list of priorities right now. 

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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #34 on: May 08, 2014, 04:35:42 PM »
I wish I never got rid of my SuperGrafx.
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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2014, 09:16:01 PM »
SGX can't really suck because it never really tried. It was an experiment, not a console. NEC put one foot in the pool, realized they didn't need a Hucard upgrade, and gracefully bowed out.

It's backward and CD compatible and the handful of exclusives are worth picking up. The creators didn't go bankrupt and not many people were ripped off. Nothing compared to fiascoes like the Virtual Boy, 32X, and Jaguar.
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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2014, 01:33:52 AM »
SGX can't really suck because it never really tried. It was an experiment, not a console. NEC put one foot in the pool, realized they didn't need a Hucard upgrade, and gracefully bowed out.

It's backward and CD compatible and the handful of exclusives are worth picking up. The creators didn't go bankrupt and not many people were ripped off. Nothing compared to fiascoes like the Virtual Boy, 32X, and Jaguar.

The 32X was a add-on, not a stand alone console, and market wise it really didn't hurt Sega nearly as much as the Saturn did over here, as they did not produce that many 32X add-ons in the end anyway. All it was, was an opportunity for Genesis owners who couldn't afford the 3DO, Saturn, PS1 to get some 32-bit power. And in what, 2 years time, it was able to get 34 cart titles and 6 cd titles. Not bad all in all.

Price wise it was only about $150 with games costing $60 retail, versus the Supergrafx launch price of $300 with games costing $100 retail. It cant even be judged by the same standards, and to be honest, if you did, it had a larger fairly decent library and a much better bang for buck ratio. A small number of better titles then what dedicated titles the Supergrafx got in all.

As much as I like Daimakaimura and 1941 Counter Attack, I'd never take them as a whole over MK2, Primal Rage, Virtua Fighter, Wrestlemania Arcade, VR Racing, NBA Jam TE, AfterBurner and Space Harrier. If you had to say which one better brought the arcade feel at home, the 32X wins that argument.

What's left on the Supergrafx is Aldynes, Battle Ace, and Granzort. All 3 are very good games, C- to B+ quality titles, but pitted against the remainder of the 32X library, there is still Knuckles, Tempo, Kolibri, Blackthorne, Star Wars Arcade, Doom, Shadow Squadron,  Metal Head, Pitfall, Star Trek: Starfleet Academy, T-MEK, Parasquad, etc. Throwing any kind of console loyalty to the side, and just simply being from a gamers perspective, there is more quality in larger quantity on 32X then on the Supergrafx.

I'd be curious to know what the Supergrafx total units sold were at retail in comparison. I know the 32X actually did fairly well initially, up till mid 95. Seems like I remember reading that the 32X sold over half a million units by Dec. 94.

Anyway, Virtual Boy and Jaguar however, yeah, I'd take a Supergrafx over either of those any time. The VB had some unique titles, but the fact that it makes you feel like you're getting brain cancer after 10 mins of play just negates that whole systems value from a players perspective. And the Jaguar, while it has good games, almost all of those same good games are all on other systems, negating the systems value and importance.

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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2014, 12:31:42 AM »
Just watching this video "Top 10 Worst Video Game Consoles"
and it reminded me of this thread.
In the list I was surprised to see the LaserActive and also although I'm not a huge Sega fan I was surprised to see the Sega CD and 32X.

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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2014, 01:23:13 AM »
Just watching this video "Top 10 Worst Video Game Consoles"
and it reminded me of this thread.
In the list I was surprised to see the LaserActive and also although I'm not a huge Sega fan I was surprised to see the Sega CD and 32X.



The Sega CD, I never knew of anyone who regretted that system. Some may have felt certain games didn't add up (Mortal Combat on Sega CD, for example), but other than that, myself, and others I knew who had it, felt OK with it.

The 32X, on the other hand. I know of someone who traded it into Funcoland not even a month after having it, store packaging and all. I guess who couldn't return it to the store he originally bought it from. He took the trade-in money, and saved it to use towards a real next generation system.

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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2015, 02:34:00 AM »
Just watching this video "Top 10 Worst Video Game Consoles"
and it reminded me of this thread.
They've recently followed up that video with "Another Top 10 Worst Video Game Consoles"


WTF?? Sega Saturn is in the list! that is one of my favourite consoles of all time, it had so many good 2D shoot 'em ups and fighting games.
The Turbo Express didn't make the list but got a "dishonourable" mention.
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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2015, 02:46:58 AM »
Just watching this video "Top 10 Worst Video Game Consoles"
and it reminded me of this thread.
They've recently followed up that video with "Another Top 10 Worst Video Game Consoles"


WTF?? Sega Saturn is in the list! that is one of my favourite consoles of all time, it had so many good 2D shoot 'em ups and fighting games.
The Turbo Express didn't make the list but got a "dishonourable" mention.

Yep i too love the saturn! I agree it has an awesome shoot'em up library, especially the japanese titles.

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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2015, 03:35:08 AM »
Yeah what about that tandy console that only had a golf game and some disc encyclopedias that was a colossal failure? That was "retarded", not the SGX or Vectrex or even the Nomad.

The VIS, kind of like the CDi someone mentioned earlier was intended to be an interactive media set top box that would replace a PC with its expensive hard drives and monitors in a early-mid 90s household. It obviously failed even more miserably than the CDi did at that task, but it wasn't really intended to be a game console much like the CDi, there just happens to be a game on the VIS.

 The CDi wasn't originally intended to be a game console, but as their market deteriorated they eventually sold later models with proper gamepads and games packed in attempting to lure in people looking to use it as a game console.
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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2015, 03:52:11 AM »
Yeah what about that tandy console that only had a golf game and some disc encyclopedias that was a colossal failure? That was "retarded", not the SGX or Vectrex or even the Nomad.

The VIS, kind of like the CDi someone mentioned earlier was intended to be an interactive media set top box that would replace a PC with its expensive hard drives and monitors in a early-mid 90s household. It obviously failed even more miserably than the CDi did at that task, but it wasn't really intended to be a game console much like the CDi, there just happens to be a game on the VIS.

 The CDi wasn't originally intended to be a game console, but as their market deteriorated they eventually sold later models with proper gamepads and games packed in attempting to lure in people looking to use it as a game console.
I remember when the CD-i was being released it was being marketed as a games machine where you learnt as well, I guess you called it "edutainment". Whether this learning premiss was crap and boring I think it was still technically a games machine.
I think also you would have to judge a past console on how it stood by the end of it's life cycle. For example my opinion was completely different on the Saturn from when it launched to when it finished it's life cycle.

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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2015, 04:18:17 AM »

I remember when the CD-i was being released it was being marketed as a games machine where you learnt as well, I guess you called it "edutainment". Whether this learning premiss was crap and boring I think it was still technically a games machine.
I think also you would have to judge a past console on how it stood by the end of it's life cycle. For example my opinion was completely different on the Saturn from when it launched to when it finished it's life cycle.

Edutainment was a focus for sure. But a lot of what was on it weren't what I'd define as games. It was interactive encyclopedias, and point and click educational titles, etc.

There were a few board games and Tetris early on, but it wasn't until 93 or so (two years after the platform launched) that they really started emphasizing game content on the system).
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Re: Super Grafx in list of most retarded games consoles
« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2015, 06:12:25 AM »
The original Cracked article was terrible. f*ck that guy, he's an idiot.

But he's not as stupid as the guy that signed off on the SGX. It was a terrible terrible idea. Nowadays things that dumb can kill a company. I'm just glad NEC managed to somehow sweep their unworkable half-ass idea under the rug and things only got better.