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Tatsujin

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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2014, 04:13:08 PM »
1943 kai is ridiculously impressive, but not well known.

Also, half serious about bravo man.

You're thinking of 1941 Counter Attack. But both are well known. :wink:

Sorry I really do mean 1943. Tons of enemies and parallax, with lots of bullets all at once, with no slowdown except for 2 seconds for literally one time. Also some gigantic bosses, though there is flicker.

And this was all with 4 Megs.

And I will also add Darius plus. That conversion floored me, and they still added extra bosses.

But 1941 was proof that the Supergrafx needed to live longer though. :)

well, the 4Mbit have nothing to do with its technical execution. and they reflect just very well, how poor 1943 kai is, when it comes to graphical details and over and over looped BGs/tiles etc.
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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2014, 07:05:27 PM »
air zonk/pc denjin is probably the most technically impressive and IMO the swansong of hucard , the sf2, the magical chase, coryoon, the soldier blade

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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2014, 09:17:30 PM »
well, the 4Mbit have nothing to do with its technical execution. and they reflect just very well, how poor 1943 kai is, when it comes to graphical details and over and over looped BGs/tiles etc.

Have you played the Kai levels too ?
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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2014, 03:28:29 AM »
After getting some more time with Metomor Jupiter this weekend, I would like to give a shout out to the third level and its amazing mode 7 style level. Truly impressive stuff.

WARNING: This is not a HuCard, but it is awesome
Jump to 15:21 to see what I mean.

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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2014, 03:56:23 AM »
After getting some more time with Metomor Jupiter this weekend, I would like to give a shout out to the third level and its amazing mode 7 style level. Truly impressive stuff.

Jump to 15:21 to see what I mean.
http://youtu.be/FQMX4wAFGlo?t=15m15s




I agree with you, but I can't get the CD to fit in the Hu slot... amidoinitrite?


lmao, yea I should have put the disclaimer on that  :-k  Just wanted to point out the awesome it is.

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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2014, 05:26:55 AM »
1943 kai is ridiculously impressive, but not well known.

Also, half serious about bravo man.

You're thinking of 1941 Counter Attack. But both are well known. :wink:

Sorry I really do mean 1943. Tons of enemies and parallax, with lots of bullets all at once, with no slowdown except for 2 seconds for literally one time. Also some gigantic bosses, though there is flicker.

And this was all with 4 Megs.

And I will also add Darius plus. That conversion floored me, and they still added extra bosses.

But 1941 was proof that the Supergrafx needed to live longer though. :)

1943 Kai does toss around more than SNES games, but by PCE standards it's just an acceptible port of a repetive game. The new content is cool, but Soldier Blade, Final Soldier, Super Star Soldier, Dragon Saber, Tatsujin, Hana Taka Daka, R-Type, Aeroblasters, Magical Chase, Download, Air Zonk, Coryoon, Detana Twinbee, Dead Moon, etc are all 4 meg HuCards. BlaZing LaZers, Sinistron and Chuka Taisen are only 3 megs. But the pixel for pixel arcade-superior port of Sidearms, the much more impressive and variety filled arcade game running on the same hardware as 1943, is only 2(!) megs.

The PCE just happens to specialize in content-packed small sized HuCard shooters that toss around insane amounts of sprites and feature killer music. 1943 would be special on SNES, but it's nothing special as far as HuCards and MD cart games go.

Darius Plus is indeed impressive, but it did not add anything new. Super Darius on CD2 has the extra bosses.
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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2014, 09:32:59 AM »

1943 kai is ridiculously impressive, but not well known.

Also, half serious about bravo man.

You're thinking of 1941 Counter Attack. But both are well known. :wink:

Sorry I really do mean 1943. Tons of enemies and parallax, with lots of bullets all at once, with no slowdown except for 2 seconds for literally one time. Also some gigantic bosses, though there is flicker.

And this was all with 4 Megs.

And I will also add Darius plus. That conversion floored me, and they still added extra bosses.

But 1941 was proof that the Supergrafx needed to live longer though. :)

1943 Kai does toss around more than SNES games, but by PCE standards it's just an acceptible port of a repetive game. The new content is cool, but Soldier Blade, Final Soldier, Super Star Soldier, Dragon Saber, Tatsujin, Hana Taka Daka, R-Type, Aeroblasters, Magical Chase, Download, Air Zonk, Coryoon, Detana Twinbee, Dead Moon, etc are all 4 meg HuCards. BlaZing LaZers, Sinistron and Chuka Taisen are only 3 megs. But the pixel for pixel arcade-superior port of Sidearms, the much more impressive and variety filled arcade game running on the same hardware as 1941, is only 2(!) megs.

The PCE just happens to specialize in content-packed small sized HuCard shooters that toss around insane amounts of sprites and feature killer music. 1941would be special on SNES, but it's nothing special as far as HuCards and MD cart games go.

Darius Plus is indeed impressive, but it did not add anything new. Super Darius on CD2 has the extra bosses.

ASIDE: I actually like the 194X series, but I think Sidearms is such a better game, fundamentally.
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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2014, 10:01:35 AM »
Darius plus had a couple of new bosses. Not many, but a few.

1943 kai is just a game not many people really respect, I do mean moreso the new stages graphically, but it is great as a whole.

The best looking hucard of all time is bomberman 94 imo.

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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2014, 01:48:46 PM »
Sidearms, the much more impressive and variety filled arcade game running on the same hardware as 1941, is only 2(!) megs!

If you're saying the arcade versions of Sidearms and 1941 were on the same hardware, that's wrong.  AC Sidearms ran on an 8-bit 4Mhz Z-80 Capcom board with less capable graphics hardware (same as Commando and 1943), whereas 1941 ran on the famous and rather more capable 16-bit 10Mhz 68000 CPS hardware.

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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2014, 02:40:21 PM »
Sidearms, the much more impressive and variety filled arcade game running on the same hardware as 1941, is only 2(!) megs!

If you're saying the arcade versions of Sidearms and 1941 were on the same hardware, that's wrong.  AC Sidearms ran on an 8-bit 4Mhz Z-80 Capcom board with less capable graphics hardware (same as Commando and 1943), whereas 1941 ran on the famous and rather more capable 16-bit 10Mhz 68000 CPS hardware.

Mistype. Meant the game we were talking about: 1943.



Darius plus had a couple of new bosses. Not many, but a few.

Wow, it looks like it might have as much as 50% more bosses than the arcade. :P

I guess that's why it's on a 6 meg card. :)
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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2014, 04:14:49 AM »
Speaking of Darius, I've never really got into the overall series, but I aim to remedy that this summer!
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Re: Normal Hu Cards that made best use of PCE hardware?
« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2014, 12:52:27 PM »
never play a darius outside the summer!
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