Author Topic: Anybody moderately enjoy TATSUJIN ( Truxton ) ?  (Read 989 times)

shubibiman

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Re: Anybody moderately enjoy TATSUJIN ( Truxton ) ?
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2014, 06:43:59 AM »
damn shubi you are a beast! is there a PCE game you cant beat that doenst have a language barrier?

As Black Tiger mentionned, there are too many games in the US library that are flawed gameplay-wise that I'll never be able, or willing, to clear or even play. Night Creatures is one of them. Moreover, I'm not really into western games, I'm a true japanese style game fan. :wink:
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Re: Anybody moderately enjoy TATSUJIN ( Truxton ) ?
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2014, 02:52:33 AM »
damn shubi you are a beast! is there a PCE game you cant beat that doenst have a language barrier?

As Black Tiger mentionned, there are too many games in the US library that are flawed gameplay-wise that I'll never be able, or willing, to clear or even play. Night Creatures is one of them. Moreover, I'm not really into western games, I'm a true japanese style game fan. :wink:
Word.  I feel the same.  I do love me some Beyond Shadowgate though.

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Re: Anybody moderately enjoy TATSUJIN ( Truxton ) ?
« Reply #32 on: August 19, 2014, 10:39:35 AM »
I was never enthralled with this or any other Toaplan shmup, to be honest, though there is something about V-V's graphics that appeals to me.  Other than that, they all seem to share the same slow-paced, relatively uninspired gameplay & sub-par music...and I think I might be the only one that feels this way. :/

rolf. one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. toaplan are absolute 80s arcade shewty gods. uninspired? slow-paced? compared to what? tatsujin f.e. plays super fast enough. bitd, toaplan placed one milestone after the other in that genre.
sub-par musics? rolfmaolol. they put out some of the best, most motivating and ear pleasuring BGMs there just are. kykyoku tiger? tatsujin? same!x3 etc. best stuff just possible.

and now I go sleep. pon nuit :D

I wouldn't call dodging a gazillion bullets "fast paced" but I understand the appeal.  It's just not my thing, is all.  Especially in the music department...hell, even Raiden has better music than most Toaplan games IMO, and this is coming from a guy who plays some games just for the music.  Then again, I didn't grow up in the arcade heydays, so I guess I don't know any better, but I'd rather play any Tecnosoft, Konami, Hudson, Irem, or even Data East shooters than anything by Toaplan.
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Re: Anybody moderately enjoy TATSUJIN ( Truxton ) ?
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2014, 01:42:01 AM »
that's a sad thing to hear, but so it shall be ^^
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Re: Anybody moderately enjoy TATSUJIN ( Truxton ) ?
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2014, 11:02:48 AM »
Whats the cheat code again?

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Anybody moderately enjoy TATSUJIN ( Truxton ) ?
« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2014, 05:43:04 AM »
Whats the cheat code again?


http://www.tg-16.com/arcade-mode-high-resolution-shmups.htm#Tatsujin







I like the Brothers Duomazov review of the TG16 version.  I'm nowhere near that good of course, and can't get anywhere in the TG16 version in my limited playing of it (in emulation), but that review is accurate: The TG16/PCE Tatsujin is HARD.  I have the game for Genesis, and the Genesis game is hard.  I haven't finished one loop of it yet, despite some trying, but I have at least gotten a few levels in to the game.  It's pretty great, once you get into it.  But that TG16 version, it's just insane!  The difficulty level is absolutely stratospheric, it's no comparison to the Genesis.  They made the game exponentially more difficult, and it's just so insanely hard on TG16 that I can't get anywhere in it.  So many bullets, that move so fast!  It's just too much.  The game's brutally hard enough on Genesis, why did they have to make it so many times harder?  But for really good shmup players who are also masochists, it's pretty much the perfect game, isn't it.  But for me... too many fast bullets, and if even one of them hits you you die and go back to the last checkpoint.  It's too much to handle.  Why did they make this version so crazily hard?  Just to differentiate it from the Genesis version, which of course released something like three years earlier?

As for graphics and sound, the two versions each have their different styles.  I'm not sure which is better.  It is disappointing that on TG16 enemies don't show damage, though -- on Genesis, some enemy types have a damage state after you hurt them some (flames break out on the larger ships, and such), but on TG16 they just look the same until destroyed.  That's one plus for the Genesis.  It's also worth noting that as with all vertical Toaplan games, the game is fullscreen on the TG16, but runs with a large black status bar on the right side on Genesis in order to preserve the aspect ratio.  I'm not sure which of those styles is better, but all of Toaplan's games keep that design split in place.  Also the Genesis version has a darker color pallete than the TG16 game, which looks much brighter.  As for the music, they're different remixes of the same stuff.  They're both really good.

Overall I like Truxton/Tatsujin a lot.  It's probably my favorite 1989 Genesis game, actually.  But the Turbo version... argh, I want to like it, but it's too hard!  It's just as great a game objectively, but I don't know how many people can actually handle the challenge.  I know it has some hidden difficulty options, but I don't think there's any way to make it as "easy" (read: really hard) as the Genesis version is.


The second game in this series, Truxton 2/Tatsujin Oh, is probably even better than the first game.  It's really too bad that its only home port is on the FM Towns...


I think those of us who went from Truxton (Genesis) -> PCE benefitted from an easier learning curve than folks jumping straight into PCE Tatsujin with basically no prior experience.

I know I would have gone crazy if I had started with PCE Tats prior to beating Truxton on Genesis.

Put simply, TATSUJIN IS NOT FOR CASUAL PLAY. YOU GOTTA DEDICATE YOURSELF TO IT. Once you realize this, and improve incrementally, you begin to appreciate it a lot more and feel less and less frustrated.

At least, I improve incrementally. I still have a LOT of work to do to get through PCE Tatsujin.
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