PCE Software Bible updates

[Necromancer]

Another round o' fixes:

DAIMAKAIMURA
    Typo - "When equipped, you can fire off a special move by holding and releasing the attack button."

DARKWING DUCK
    'Raising Young Waterfowl' link is dead. 

DEEP BLUE
    Typo - "And believe me, there are a LOT of these angry denizens of the deep that would like nothing more than to take you down."
    Typo - "...why anyone would want to play this game more than once is beyond me."

DORAEMON - NOBITA'S DORABIAN NIGHT
    Typo - "Taking a different route to its maze-based predecessor..."

DOUBLE DRAGON II
    Typo - "Conversion of the popular arcade scrolling beat 'em up."  <-- not sure on the second one; maybe it's a regional thing.

DRAGON FIGHTER - TATSU NO KO FIGHTER 
    Tense disagreement - "But while Ghouls 'n' Ghosts was visually interesting and had great music, this isn't."

DRAGON SLAYER - THE LEGEND OF HEROES
    Typo - "...but Falcom has removed a lot of the frustration by allowing you to see your foes as you progress.  <-- Falcom is a singular entity, isn't it?  Any Englishaticians here know the rule?

DRAGON SPIRIT
    Typo - "This vertically scrolling shoot 'em up..."  <-- to be consistent with others in the genre

DUNGEON EXPLORER II
    Typo - "This CD sequel to Dungeon Explorer plays very much the same as the first game."

DUNGEONS & DRAGONS - ORDER OF THE GRIFFON 
    'Why not try... Dungeon Master' link mistakenly leads to The Kung Fu.

[sunteam_paul]

Thank you sir, I've fixed all that aside from the 'scrolly' thing which was intentional.

[Necromancer]

Here's another handful:

EIYU SANGOKUSHI
    Typo - Index page link is to '..../Eiyu_Sankokushi.htm' rather than '..../Eiyu_Sangokushi.htm'.

1552 TENKA TAIRAN
    Typo - "...and even a large amount of designers' notes."

F1 TEAM SIMULATION - PROJECT F
    Index page links to old school formatted page.

F1 TRIPLE BATTLE
    'Why not try...F1 Dream' link mistakenly leads to F1 Pilot.

FAR EAST OF EDEN II - MANJI MARU
    'Why not try...Far East of Eden - Ziria' link mistakenly leads to Far East of Eden II - Manji Maru.

FIEND HUNTER
    Typo - "The graphics are very clean and look [something's missing here] everything animates nicely..."

FINAL SOLDIER
    Typo - "Another shoot 'em up in Hudson’s Soldier series.
    "...you can set up different style of weapon..."  <--it's awkwardly phrased, but I'll leave it up to you how to fix it up (or not).

FUSHIGI NO UMI NO NADIA - THE SECRET OF BLUE WATER
    'The Secret of Blue Water Fan Site' link has died.

GANBARE! GOLF BOYS 
    Typo - "...all the controls are pretty standard for a game of this type..."

GARO DENSETSU SPECIAL
    Typo - Index page link is to Fatal Fury 2 rather than Fatal Fury Special.

GENOCIDE
    Typo - "It feels like you have little control and are just routinely bashing a button/the button/buttons/etc. in the hope something good will come of it..."

GENPEI TOMA DEN
    Typo - 'Try It' rating is clearly a mistake. 

GENPEI TOMA DEN - KANNONI
    Typo - "Sequel to the original multi-stage action game."  <--Maybe this should be 'multi-style', as that is how you described Genpei Toma Den.

GO! GO! BIRDIE CHANCE
    'External Links - Pangya' times out and doesn't load, though maybe it's just temporary.

HANY IN THE SKY 
    Typo - "...allowing you to shoot in all directions."
    Typo - "The last stage is basically a Escher puzzle picture come to life.  The interlocking-shape enemies jump out from the background..."

J.J. & JEFF
    Typo - "...Hudson has taken the gameplay from the original..."

JACK NICKLAUS WORLD TOUR GOLF
    'Why not try...Power Golf' link is to '.../Templates%20(2007)/Power_Golf.htm' instead of '.../HTML_Games/Power_Golf.htm'

JACKIE CHAN
    Typo - "Hudson has chosen cute over realistic and..."
    Typo - "The first is a ball of energy that you expel..."
    Typo - "If there was one negative point it would be that the some of the later levels

JIM POWER
    Typo - "Shooting platform game originally released on the Commodore Amiga..."

[mobiusclimber]

I was super stoked to see this website! Gamefaqs and Mobygames are not ideal sites sometimes for figuring out what type of game a certain title is. I just went thru the PCE S.B. and made up a list of all the games I want to get... wow is it a long one! Anyway this is a great resource, thanks for maintaining it! 

[torrente]

Yeah that's so true!

It's the best video games ressource I've ever seen!
Complete and very useful!

I've already bought 9 games, all refering to this bible.

And tonight I'll visit an eBay seller who sold me a scart for my Coregrafx!
I'll be able to play all of them this week end, finally and enter this new world!! 

[mobiusclimber]

Yeah that's so true!

It's the best video games ressource I've ever seen!
Complete and very useful!

I wouldn't go that far, but it's certainly the best for PCE/CD games. The bigger consoles have vast databases filled with information, but the PC engine/TG system? Not so much. Which is why this site is so great. I might have to start submitting some reviews if I can so it can continue to grow.

[Necromancer]

Not to take away from Sunteam Paul's fine site, but have you two visited PCE Daisakusen or the PC Engine Catalog Project?  They don't serve up the tunes and vids that the bible sports, but they both offer a treasure trove of information, the former even helping you to keep track of your collection.

[mobiusclimber]

The first one didn't impress me at all, but the second one seems to have a lot more info as well as images for most if not all of the games in its database. Very impressive! Shame the layout isn't more user friendly, but oh well.

[torrente]

Yep I knew them both

I kinda like the second one but I find it difficult to navigate on. It's very laborious IMO.

And I'm aware that there are many complete video games site for the newest consoles...

But I just find Sunteam's to be the greatest graphically speaking and one of the greatest of the "one console only" type.
I mean it's clear, attractive, convivial and so ergonomic.
No other one is comparable.

[Game and Watch Kirby]

GENPEI TOMA DEN
    Typo - 'Try It' rating is clearly a mistake. 

To each his or her own, Necromancer . I remember him giving this game about 3 meats out of 5 on the older version of the website. If he thinks it's a decent game, then he has no reason to change it.

I, too, owe my credentials to Sunteam_Paul. From his videos and website, I've learned a lot about a number of PC Engine and TurboGrafx-16 games, and a good number of the games I wanted to play were determined from these. I can't fully determine what my knowledge and game wantings would be if it weren't for them:).

I have a few questions for you, if you're reading this, Sunteam. I've noticed that for the "Note About the Game Title" section of the PC Denjin/Bonk's Adventure entry that the statement about his US name was changed from "ignoring Bonk all we can" to "before US marketing bods came up with 'Bonk.'" I seem to remember the former statement being present after the website had been updated. How long ago was it changed, and what was the purpose behind it (I have a feeling that it might had to do with "being appropriate").

In the gameplay video for Bonk's Adventure, was there some sort of "turbo" feature used in it? It seemed that there were some aerial flips that were done too quickly for the normal human to perform (especially during the bonus round requiring this; does Magic Engine support turbo features, even for the Japanese version, assuming that there were none available on the controllers for the PC Engine?). As far as I can determine, there doesn't seem to be anything too different about the way Bonk looks in the video from the US version (which made me wonder a bit if the video after the title screen was from the American version).

How were you able to record the music for Alien Crush, also? I haven't found any sound test cheat codes for the game (though there is one available for Devil's Crush). Does Magic Engine have a feature that allows to listen to the music in games in spite of a lack of a sound test within the actual game (I don't highly know about this emulator, but I have heard slightly about a feature like this).

Just to give you a reminder, I'm still waiting for a gameplay video of Battle Royale and the other two Bomberman games, and also music videos for the Bonk series.

[Necromancer]

To each his or her own, Necromancer . I remember him giving this game about 3 meats out of 5 on the older version of the website. If he thinks it's a decent game, then he has no reason to change it.

The little laughing smiley makes it pretty obvious that I was joking and wasn't expecting Paul to change Genpei's rating.  Perhaps you're unaware of the concept of 'joke', so here's a definition for you:

Joke – noun
1.  Something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act.
2.  Something that is amusing or ridiculous, esp. because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; a farce.
3.  A matter that need not be taken very seriously; a trifling matter.

P.S. - In case you were wondering, yes, this post is also in jest. 

[mobiusclimber]

After looking over PCECP some more, it looks like the PCE Bible might have more games, or possibly just several that aren't in the PCECP. I tried looking up games from the list I made up and couldn't find nearly half of them. Maybe the spelling is just different? No idea.

[Necromancer]

After looking over PCECP some more, it looks like the PCE Bible might have more games, or possibly just several that aren't in the PCECP. I tried looking up games from the list I made up and couldn't find nearly half of them. Maybe the spelling is just different? No idea.

Probably different spellings/translation; the bible has many titles conveniently listed under their various different names, making 'em easy to find if you don't know their 'proper' title (such as Art of Fighting instead of just Ryuko no Ken).  What were you looking for on PCECP?

[Game and Watch Kirby]

To each his or her own, Necromancer . I remember him giving this game about 3 meats out of 5 on the older version of the website. If he thinks it's a decent game, then he has no reason to change it.

The little laughing smiley makes it pretty obvious that I was joking and wasn't expecting Paul to change Genpei's rating.  Perhaps you're unaware of the concept of 'joke', so here's a definition for you:

Joke – noun
1.  Something said or done to provoke laughter or cause amusement, as a witticism, a short and amusing anecdote, or a prankish act.
2.  Something that is amusing or ridiculous, esp. because of being ludicrously inadequate or a sham; a thing, situation, or person laughed at rather than taken seriously; a farce.
3.  A matter that need not be taken very seriously; a trifling matter.

P.S. - In case you were wondering, yes, this post is also in jest. 

Even with the "" smiley, it just sounded like you were meanly laughing at the rating he gave for the game (I know about jokes, silly, so that jest wasn't even needed ). It can be hard to tell if someone's joking in text sometimes as in speech a certain tone in voice indicates one is told. At times, something so illogical even for a joke that I have to correct it no matter what .

[sunteam_paul]

Thanks for all the kind comments about my site, it's always a thrill to know that people really appreciate it and all those months (years) of my life have not been wasted! I will repeat Necro's comments that both PCECP and PCE Daisakusen are both awsome sites in their own right, and I think that all of our sites have something different to offer PC Engine fans.

After looking over PCECP some more, it looks like the PCE Bible might have more games, or possibly just several that aren't in the PCECP. I tried looking up games from the list I made up and couldn't find nearly half of them. Maybe the spelling is just different? No idea.

Probably different spellings/translation; the bible has many titles conveniently listed under their various different names, making 'em easy to find if you don't know their 'proper' title (such as Art of Fighting instead of just Ryuko no Ken).  What were you looking for on PCECP?

Necro is correct. I list many games under alternative names, even incorrect names that you might know them by to make it easier to locate them. I'm also pretty sure that PCECP lists more games than my site, although I do list unreleased titles that it doesn't have.

Now to answer some of Kirby's questions:

I have a few questions for you, if you're reading this, Sunteam. I've noticed that for the "Note About the Game Title" section of the PC Denjin/Bonk's Adventure entry that the statement about his US name was changed from "ignoring Bonk all we can" to "before US marketing bods came up with 'Bonk.'" I seem to remember the former statement being present after the website had been updated. How long ago was it changed, and what was the purpose behind it (I have a feeling that it might had to do with "being appropriate").

I've made some minor and other major adjustments to wording and phrases to a lot of pages. I believe my thinking behind this change was partly because the initial version sounds a little dismissive, and partly because I like the word bod. It is also a clever way to hide my foaming hatred for the name 'Bonk'. (Did I say that out loud?)

It seemed that there were some aerial flips that were done too quickly for the normal human to perform

Pish and tish! Although there is always the option for rapid-fire switches in ME and on the PCE pad, manual rapid fire is a minor skill of mine, although I doubt I could ever beat The Master.

How were you able to record the music for Alien Crush, also?

There are many hacked music-only rips of games floating around the internet, or so I am told 

Just to give you a reminder, I'm still waiting for a gameplay video of Battle Royale and the other two Bomberman games, and also music videos for the Bonk series.

I'll probably do the PC Kid ones soon, maybe Bomber Man too. Don't hold your breath for Battle Royale, it's hard to force myself to play it.



And Genpei is rubbish is a cool way, not in a crappy way like Deep Blue, so it well deserves that rating. In fact, it might be the best naff game on the system.