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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2014, 05:54:27 AM »
I figured 8 and 16 bit would have crashed by now as the flavor of the week in collecting evolves on to the 64-bit era, then on to the XB360/PS3 and beyond, but that sure hasn't happened. Shit's more expensive than it's ever been.

I think a more realistic scenario is that the market just corrects itself - it gets expensive to a point where merchants can't sell anything and it naturally corrects.

And yeah, us dying. That'll hurt the market.

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2014, 06:28:58 AM »
More and more DLC rather than physical media should increase the collector desire for physical media, should it not? I would think that prices will level out for a while and then start to climb again, but only on the desired and rare titles/consoles. But, who knows... I'm still half thinking that the same thing that happened to the sports cards and toy collecting fads in the 90's will happen to our little hobby as well. Bell curve. Just like Nintendo Wii sales/interest.

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2014, 06:50:25 AM »
as long as more peiple are getting into the retro scene, it will increase for sure. sucks bad for me since im a neo geo collector and those games have gone up in price so much within the past 5 years that ive been collecting for the system.

still doesnt stop me from finding good deals though. it's getting hard but its possible to scoop good deals even on a neo

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2014, 07:34:57 AM »
as long as more peiple are getting into the retro scene, it will increase for sure. sucks bad for me since im a neo geo collector and those games have gone up in price so much within the past 5 years that ive been collecting for the system.

still doesnt stop me from finding good deals though. it's getting hard but its possible to scoop good deals even on a neo



Deals can always be had.  I got me a complete MVS ROTD's for $50 complete not too long ago.  As with every expensive hobby you have to realize that some people's eye's are far larger than their income and have panic sales when they realize that they cannot afford it or an emergency comes up.  I got me some nice stuff that way.  Also when I stated collecting for the Neo back in 1999 really shity games were cheap as hell, I got Soccer Brawl for like $15 a loose Football Frenzy for free and hell even a great game like FFS for like $10 because how common it was and people simply didn't value them.  I can't tell you how many copies of SS2 I had gone through and just dumped after buying bundles.  The best deal ever was back in 2008 there was some nut selling a bundle of 11 Boxed New Old Stock Launch games and I bought them all for like $250.  He had a LOT of them. Worked out to be $22 a game brand new.  I should have bought a bunch but you can still see them being sold on fleabay for $100 a game now, that's a 400% increase over 6 years.  This is obviously not sustainable and I see another crash where people simply say f*ck it and move on.

I got all these guys for $250 shipped, could not be beat.  The Super Spy even came with the Dual 3.5MM Stereo Cable to link up two games for 2 player action.  I can't believe more people didn't jump on these before the resellers bought them all.


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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2014, 07:51:59 AM »


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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2014, 08:01:37 AM »
Ohhhh Slug 5!!!  It has my favorite music.  I got it on MVS.


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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2014, 02:48:45 PM »
I haz da roms on my neo multi cart.

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2014, 03:26:16 PM »
Uh bit rot? About the only cds I have ever seen do this are the old cd-rs I burnt back in the early 2000s late 90s. As far as prices leveling out.. Well if virtual console and emulation hasn't done anything to prices nothing will.

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2014, 05:29:08 PM »
There are a number of factors that worry me with Bit Rot being the number one.  After 20 yrs. most CDs and a high percentage of carts will start to become unplayable.  Many of my collecting friends have varying thoughts on how this will effect value.


Uh oh, should probably lower the price on this before it dies then, huh?

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2014, 05:52:17 PM »
It really does feel like groundhogs day with this topic, but here goes nothing. . .

I think a more realistic scenario is that the market just corrects itself - it gets expensive to a point where merchants can't sell anything and it naturally corrects.


I 100% agree. All markets and commodities, especially those driven by heavy speculation and high turnover (e.g. quickly flipping games for profit) are subject to market rises, drops, and corrections. Re-sellers can only raise prices so far before they price their buyers out. Other than a very very very small number of goods that are purchased for their "collectible" value, most items purchased for the purpose of collecting do not maintain an upward trajectory in their value.


I can't see people paying big bucks for ever on this stuff there has to be a crash except for the super rare stuff like the Gold NES Wold Champions Cart and so on.


People are definitely not going to be paying top dollar for classic games forever. Most of you current game collectors fall into three distinct categories:

(1) Guys and gals who are original owners of their systems, who never stopped picking up games for said systems when most stores and video game shops were selling off their old stock or selling used games for cheap. Most of these individuals are appalled by the current prices of their beloved games and would never pay $5000 for a copy of *insert your favorite rare title here*

(2) Younger Gen-X and older Millennials, who now have some level of disposable income, and they want their old childhood toys and systems back. These folks typically aren't interested in your *insert your favorite rare title here* and mainly just want their NES with Mario, Duckhunt, Zelda, or whatever games tug at their nostalgia boner. Some of these more deep pocketed individuals might get caught up in the collectard game, but most won't because, quite frankly, they probably don't give a rats dick about some weird looking game called Magical Chase thats going to set them back 5K.

(3) Last, and certainly not least, you have your weird smelly, sticky, pee-drinking collectards. These are the people (who am I kidding; they're all single young males with little to no dating prospects) who will spend any amount of money on any mint copy of *insert your favorite rare title here* in order to have it gloriously displayed on their wall and far away from that no-good system that might make their mint copy of "Magical Chase at Dinosaur Peak World Championships Saga" less valuable.

Long analysis short, groups 1 and 2 don't really give a shit because they still have their childhood games or they've purchased back the ones they had. Group 3 will continue to speculate and flip away until they price themselves out of their own market. And from there, they'll most likely sell of their collection to jump onto the next popular system to collect for.

And you're definitely right about Nintendo World Championships. That's one game I actually except to maintain an upward trajectory in value.
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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2014, 07:09:57 PM »
everdrive may free some of the remaining cartridges and cd games and in theory marginally lower the prices in the long term

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2014, 08:23:01 PM »


Im an AEShole too, there is no ceiling to the madness.

must be nice to have blazing star, pulstar, big tournament golf and last resort in aes version you aeshole!!! lol just messing but very awesome games man!

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2014, 08:25:34 PM »
as long as more peiple are getting into the retro scene, it will increase for sure. sucks bad for me since im a neo geo collector and those games have gone up in price so much within the past 5 years that ive been collecting for the system.

still doesnt stop me from finding good deals though. it's getting hard but its possible to scoop good deals even on a neo



Deals can always be had.  I got me a complete MVS ROTD's for $50 complete not too long ago.  As with every expensive hobby you have to realize that some people's eye's are far larger than their income and have panic sales when they realize that they cannot afford it or an emergency comes up.  I got me some nice stuff that way.  Also when I stated collecting for the Neo back in 1999 really shity games were cheap as hell, I got Soccer Brawl for like $15 a loose Football Frenzy for free and hell even a great game like FFS for like $10 because how common it was and people simply didn't value them.  I can't tell you how many copies of SS2 I had gone through and just dumped after buying bundles.  The best deal ever was back in 2008 there was some nut selling a bundle of 11 Boxed New Old Stock Launch games and I bought them all for like $250.  He had a LOT of them. Worked out to be $22 a game brand new.  I should have bought a bunch but you can still see them being sold on fleabay for $100 a game now, that's a 400% increase over 6 years.  This is obviously not sustainable and I see another crash where people simply say f*ck it and move on.

I got all these guys for $250 shipped, could not be beat.  The Super Spy even came with the Dual 3.5MM Stereo Cable to link up two games for 2 player action.  I can't believe more people didn't jump on these before the resellers bought them all.





hey man, I actually purchased the same lot as well. 11 sealed neo geo games for 250 shipped from classic game source off ebay I believe. Did your ghost pilots come with that insert with the u.s. dog tag on it? Mine came with the euro insert. That's pretty weird but like you said man, still good deals to be found, just gotta be patient and consistant!

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2014, 09:13:54 PM »
Prices right now seem to be crazy high, and this is not just Turbografx stuff, but SNES, Sega Saturn, and other retro consoles.  Even the stuff that isn't 'rare' is double or even more than it was a couple years back.

Do you guys think the prices will eventually level out, once resellers move out and the gouging stops?  Or are we in for these prices for the foreseeable future?

Part of me thinks it's here to stay since these games are not getting any newer, and over the years people lose stuff or it breaks.

Anyways, what say you?

I don´t think prices will ever significantly drop in the future. TG and PCE are now vintage items, hence there is a price rise. Whether it is justified or not, prices will continue to rise and might rise into heights we probably now just have a mere imagination of.

And since we´re talking about vintage items, they will have a certain base price point that is dictated by their rarity, age and of course, availability to a certain market. If you live in Japan you will be happier than in the EU, since you pay less for items in general.

It is the same with classic cars. They never drop in price, they cost you money to drive them, they cost you money to stay in good shape (so does a game console, unless you can service it yourself), and they become more and more expensive due to less and less available original parts and of course generally models in running condition. There´s no way around it.

So I expect to rise certain games and items to become more and more expensive within the coming years. So I´d better start with the more rare items and purchase the less expensive ones later, since they are way more common and will stay common, hence become less expensive over a longer period of time.

Just my 2 cents. Anybody else perhaps with a different opinion?

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Re: Will we see prices level out?
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2014, 01:58:34 AM »
as long as more peiple are getting into the retro scene, it will increase for sure. sucks bad for me since im a neo geo collector and those games have gone up in price so much within the past 5 years that ive been collecting for the system.

still doesnt stop me from finding good deals though. it's getting hard but its possible to scoop good deals even on a neo



Deals can always be had.  I got me a complete MVS ROTD's for $50 complete not too long ago.  As with every expensive hobby you have to realize that some people's eye's are far larger than their income and have panic sales when they realize that they cannot afford it or an emergency comes up.  I got me some nice stuff that way.  Also when I stated collecting for the Neo back in 1999 really shity games were cheap as hell, I got Soccer Brawl for like $15 a loose Football Frenzy for free and hell even a great game like FFS for like $10 because how common it was and people simply didn't value them.  I can't tell you how many copies of SS2 I had gone through and just dumped after buying bundles.  The best deal ever was back in 2008 there was some nut selling a bundle of 11 Boxed New Old Stock Launch games and I bought them all for like $250.  He had a LOT of them. Worked out to be $22 a game brand new.  I should have bought a bunch but you can still see them being sold on fleabay for $100 a game now, that's a 400% increase over 6 years.  This is obviously not sustainable and I see another crash where people simply say f*ck it and move on.

I got all these guys for $250 shipped, could not be beat.  The Super Spy even came with the Dual 3.5MM Stereo Cable to link up two games for 2 player action.  I can't believe more people didn't jump on these before the resellers bought them all.





hey man, I actually purchased the same lot as well. 11 sealed neo geo games for 250 shipped from classic game source off ebay I believe. Did your ghost pilots come with that insert with the u.s. dog tag on it? Mine came with the euro insert. That's pretty weird but like you said man, still good deals to be found, just gotta be patient and consistant!



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