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Medic_wheat

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WTB Sega CD Model 1
« on: October 01, 2014, 09:55:23 AM »
I need a replacement Sega CD Model 1....


Although I'll consider a Model 2 (w/extension for a Model 1 Genesis) I prefer the classy look of a Model 1 Sega CD. 

My current Sega CD only works when it wants to and at times stops while reading/loading...this had made playing it very frustrating ........  I need me my Sega CD fix! ........


Or a Sega CDX would be better.....but I doubt that will pop up.

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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2014, 10:22:19 AM »
Look for a JVC X' Eye, they're really cute! I need to get mine fixed up! Eff! Yay!

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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2014, 10:24:51 AM »
Look for a JVC X' Eye, they're really cute! I need to get mine fixed up! Eff! Yay!

I vaguly remember hearing about these...gray with pastel colors onthe top of the system?


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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2014, 06:25:52 PM »
Look for a JVC X' Eye, they're really cute! I need to get mine fixed up! Eff! Yay!


I vaguly remember hearing about these...gray with pastel colors onthe top of the system?



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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2014, 03:03:08 AM »
Look for a JVC X' Eye, they're really cute! I need to get mine fixed up! Eff! Yay!


I vaguly remember hearing about these...gray with pastel colors onthe top of the system?





is it more affordable/reliable then the Model 1/2 Sega CD addons?

Or is the Sega CDX the most reliable model to own?


basically I want to get what ever model that will most likely last the ages......

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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2014, 04:00:14 AM »
I really hate to be the naysayer but you are way better off just saving up the $150 a CDX will cost you.  Model 2 CD is fine, if you have the means to set it up with a Model 1 genesis.  Keep your Model 1 CD to look at, because that's about all it's good for considering how prone to irreparable failure they are. Nobody seems to want to fix them, either.
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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2014, 04:09:07 AM »
I really hate to be the naysayer but you are way better off just saving up the $150 a CDX will cost you.  Model 2 CD is fine, if you have the means to set it up with a Model 1 genesis.  Keep your Model 1 CD to look at, because that's about all it's good for considering how prone to irreparable failure they are. Nobody seems to want to fix them, either.

This is what I was starting to realize. Think. 


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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2014, 04:59:55 AM »
Glad I found this post, I think I can help:
I own all of the Sega CD consoles, the best one for longevity is going to be the model 2.

Sega CDX - if you have the means, this is the sexiest way to play either Genesis or Sega CD games.  I always find it amazing at how much smaller it is than the other combo Sega CD options.  The laser inside is just okay at reading through scratches and errors, probably the weakest of the models, but it is such a nice system to own.  Technical:  I own one (from my thrift store days) never serviced and two others I rescued from the grave with new lasers and pot adjustments (and springs, etc.).  Not that easy to work on, but better than the model 1.  Replacement lasers are easy to find.  A few select games are incompatible, but my 'The Terminator' seemed fine on it.

Model 1 - I just rebuilt one and these are very complicated inside, all related to the CD drawer mechanisms. There are three limit kill switches inside, a belt that needs to be replaced, and generally a lot of failure points.  Technical:  I own two complete units, one never serviced (!) and one with parts from the best of two units.  The parts unit had leaky caps on the main logic board that had eaten through some surface mount traces.  Unless you have the technical urge and parts units, avoid.  A plus:  The lasers are of good quality and can read though scratches and errors above average.  My rebuilt unit still makes an odd noise, related to a dirty limit switch (I think) that is going to take a lot of complex disassembly to even start to diagnose.  It is getting much better with use....use it or lose it I guess.

Model 2 - the most reliable of the units.  I have several, two of them upgraded to boxed, all have never needed service.  The lasers inside are of average quality, about like the Sega CDX.  Average ability to read through errors and scratches.  You might get lucky:  one unit out of many had way above average error correction and was internally very different from the rest.  No one has done a comparison of the internal compoinents inside that I know about.

JVC X'Eye - I have one, and have seen others with weird problems.  The first one I dragged home had some odd graphic glitch in Genesis games, others have lid problems.  My unit has been fine.  Plays imports without modification (hello Super Fantasy Zone!).  JP music in the custom Sega CD bios.  Should come with a JVC branded 3 button controller, custom power supply, custom RF adapter.  Technical:  Loads games faster than any other Sega CD.  At its best, I would say almost a third faster!  Mine is still unserviced, so I suppose if you get a good one...

I hope this helps!  Collecting real Sega CD games has just about driven me mad.  These were never respected, so it was not uncommon for me to go through several expensive discs to find one good one that did not have pinholes of light.  The discs do not hold up to wear at all and should be kept in their cases when not played.  If a scratch or pinhole is in an FMV sequence, the game will often crash.  Pinholes are okay in music sequences, however.  Laser calibration is an issue, since these were all done with pots.  I can have a disc that locks up in a Sega CDX but plays fine in a model 2.  Given all of this, the Sega CD still ranks among my favorite consoles ever.  It was  true luxury good that I only experienced a few times prior to picking one up in 1997 in a local thrift store.  Get to know a shop owner with a good resurfacing machine, it is a must!  I also threw away all of the foam blocks that tend to come with more cared for copies of the games.  The foam has degraded over 20 years and had started to stick to the discs.  Since they are so fragile, better safe than sorry (no damage, thankfully).
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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2014, 05:10:27 AM »
Sega CDX - if you have the means, this is the sexiest way to play either Genesis or Sega CD games.

LA begs to differ.  :P
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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2014, 05:12:56 AM »
Yeah ever since I bought my Model 1 at a Goodwill about two years ago, it has been finiky about when it wants to work.

I think it has difficulty knowing when a disk is in the system.  It will keep searching or just not register that a cd was put in....at times it will work, but then lock up when the system needs to load rademly.

So I could get pretty far in Sonic or Snatcher only to be stuck on a load and have to force restart the game.  Then beg the system to register the game is even in it.

I know it is not the games, as I have a friend who has a Model 2 and they play fine.  I still will not loan him a single Sega CD game of my own (they are just becoming to expensive for me to every dare replace I fear) and his kids are in the whole (I want to touch everything and jack up your cds/dvds/blurays) ......

Sounds as though the best option is the Model 2 which is the cheapest option.  For me it was more of an astetic thing that kept me from wanting that model honestly.  I just like the look of the Model 1....personaly..

The Sega CDX although compact looks like it would go flying off the game shelf if I wasn't carefull enough with the controler....although I do plan to pick up a wirless Sega controller some day...but man those are starting to hit the $60 dollar mark.

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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2014, 05:19:05 AM »
Sega CDX - if you have the means, this is the sexiest way to play either Genesis or Sega CD games.

LA begs to differ.  :P


Dang, I always forget about the LaserActive.  Curses!  No, I don't own every way to play a Sega CD after all!!   ](*,)
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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2014, 05:22:15 AM »
Sega CDX - if you have the means, this is the sexiest way to play either Genesis or Sega CD games.


LA begs to differ.  :P



Dang, I always forget about the LaserActive.  Curses!  No, I don't own every way to play a Sega CD after all!!   ](*,)


Don't forget about those sexy packs

the only two that matter the Sega and TG Pack ......although imagine if you could have had both packs instaled on either side of the LA at the same time?!


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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2014, 05:23:53 AM »
Yeah ever since I bought my Model 1 at a Goodwill about two years ago, it has been finiky about when it wants to work.

I think it has difficulty knowing when a disk is in the system.  It will keep searching or just not register that a cd was put in....at times it will work, but then lock up when the system needs to load rademly.

So I could get pretty far in Sonic or Snatcher only to be stuck on a load and have to force restart the game.  Then beg the system to register the game is even in it.

I know it is not the games, as I have a friend who has a Model 2 and they play fine.  I still will not loan him a single Sega CD game of my own (they are just becoming to expensive for me to every dare replace I fear) and his kids are in the whole (I want to touch everything and jack up your cds/dvds/blurays) ......

Sounds as though the best option is the Model 2 which is the cheapest option.  For me it was more of an astetic thing that kept me from wanting that model honestly.  I just like the look of the Model 1....personaly..

The Sega CDX although compact looks like it would go flying off the game shelf if I wasn't carefull enough with the controler....although I do plan to pick up a wirless Sega controller some day...but man those are starting to hit the $60 dollar mark.

And, I am sure everyone knows, the Sega CDX is not cheap.  Even with broken units, the best I could do was bumping right up to the $100 mark when restored to working order.  Replacing the custom CDX power supply is also a trick in itself if you want an original one (and not one of the Retro Game Cave ones).

I think a Sega CD model two with a Genesis Model 2 looks nice.  If you get a Genesis model 2 be sure to get one of the 'half-sized' mobo later revisions, they are much better than the 'full sized.' 
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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2014, 05:26:01 AM »
Yeah ever since I bought my Model 1 at a Goodwill about two years ago, it has been finiky about when it wants to work.

I think it has difficulty knowing when a disk is in the system.  It will keep searching or just not register that a cd was put in....at times it will work, but then lock up when the system needs to load rademly.

So I could get pretty far in Sonic or Snatcher only to be stuck on a load and have to force restart the game.  Then beg the system to register the game is even in it.

I know it is not the games, as I have a friend who has a Model 2 and they play fine.  I still will not loan him a single Sega CD game of my own (they are just becoming to expensive for me to every dare replace I fear) and his kids are in the whole (I want to touch everything and jack up your cds/dvds/blurays) ......

Sounds as though the best option is the Model 2 which is the cheapest option.  For me it was more of an astetic thing that kept me from wanting that model honestly.  I just like the look of the Model 1....personaly..

The Sega CDX although compact looks like it would go flying off the game shelf if I wasn't carefull enough with the controler....although I do plan to pick up a wirless Sega controller some day...but man those are starting to hit the $60 dollar mark.

And, I am sure everyone knows, the Sega CDX is not cheap.  Even with broken units, the best I could do was bumping right up to the $100 mark when restored to working order.  Replacing the custom CDX power supply is also a trick in itself if you want an original one (and not one of the Retro Game Cave ones).

I think a Sega CD model two with a Genesis Model 2 looks nice.  If you get a Genesis model 2 be sure to get one of the 'half-sized' mobo later revisions, they are much better than the 'full sized.'

I am eye banging a CDX that is at a buy it now of $164 with free shipping that actually works and has the power cord (alot of the CDX's seem to be missing the power corde it seems.

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Re: WTB Sega CD Model 1
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2014, 05:29:00 AM »
Wow, I saw it too after a quick search.  You should buy that quick, it's a steal.  Heck, do I need four CDXs...humm.  No, no...yes!...no, no.  (sigh)
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