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3D Printed HuCard Case Development (NOW AVAILABLE!)
« on: November 02, 2014, 04:22:17 PM »
So after learning about a few people that posted creating replacement HuCard cases, I've decided to work on my own version as well.   The purpose of this project is to:

1. Teach myself how to 3D model an object from the real world
2. See if a HuCard case can be 3D printed
3. Use the finished printed HuCard case to replace old/broken HuCard cases

Here is a shot of how much of the case I have modeled so far:


I almost have the proper size of the case down to exact dimensions but it's slow going as I tweak one setting, then I have to re-print which takes about 3hrs....but it is coming along nicely.  After the case is done, I'll work on the plastic arm and the borders for where the HuCard will sit.

I have no plans to mass-produce this model (no injection molding) but I may offer to print this up to people if it turns out good....too early to say right now.

11/17/14 UPDATE
Case model is complete - pricing/bundles to be posted next.

11/18/14 UPDATE
Due to a color density issue with new spool of filament that just came in, pricing/bundle details will be delayed.  Can't estimate when this will be resolved at this time.

12/12/14 UPDATE
Well I had hoped to take orders before the holiday but looks like this won't happen for multiple reasons:
- I will be purchasing a 2nd 3D printer in the next few weeks which will not only be at least 2x faster, but will also give me better print quality.
- I will be on vacation starting the 23rd, so nothing will be printed till after the 6th anyway.

Once I get the new 3D printer, I'll evaluate the print of the case, make any tweaks (if needed) and start printing cases en masse, which at that time ordering details will be provided.

1/7/15 UPDATE
Just waiting for my new 3D printer to arrive...once put together and configured, I'll then be able to re-print the case and do any re-tweaking to the design (if needed) before going into full production.

1/27/15 UPDATE
New MakerGear M2 printer has arrived and is still being broken in.  Not getting the surface finish I want yet from the printer so still in the tweaking stage.  No ETA yet until I can get the surface finish that I expect.

2/11/15 UPDATE
Print quality out of my new 3D printer is finally where I want it so one issue down - now I'm back to putting the finishing touches to the model and verifying that it fits correctly with the top case.....

2/18/15 UPDATE
Spending some extra time right now to find ways to cut down on print times for the case (takes about 2h45m currently).  I think I can cut this down by 30-45mins without sacrificing the quality of the finish or changing the print resolution but will require a few extra days of testing.  At the same time I'm tweaking the model to tighten up tolerances for when the top case is attached.

2/21/15 UPDATE
I'm happy to announce that I have completed the final tweaking/fitting phase of the model and so far have 3 fully assembled HuCard cases!  After I get a few more done I'll then be finalizing ordering details, taking photos/videos and all that good stuff.....we're close!

3/1/15 UPDATE
The HuCard 3DCase is now available here: https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=18661.0
« Last Edit: March 06, 2015, 09:52:10 AM by Pcenginefx »
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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2014, 04:26:55 PM »
Very cool! So once you have it printing exactly how you want it, then you submit it to somewhere to get printed on a larger scale? Or do you just plan to make them on your printer?

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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2014, 04:32:03 PM »
Very cool! So once you have it printing exactly how you want it, then you submit it to somewhere to get printed on a larger scale? Or do you just plan to make them on your printer?

I'm exploring various options - can't say one way or another right now what I will be doing quite yet until I get the model to print right.
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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2014, 05:51:17 PM »
please make this dream a reality! tgat is really cool that you are looking into making these!  hope everything goes well in your project.

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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2014, 09:26:09 PM »
Pretty sure jelloslug looked into this and it turned out to be too expensive. If your goal is simply learning how to model along the way to successfully creating a 1:1 case, though, should prove to be a fun, little experience.

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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2014, 01:25:59 AM »
If you want it I can send you my model. I have had it printed before and it's a bit pricy.




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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2014, 02:51:01 AM »
Neato.  I'd like to see how this turns out in terms of fitment, finish, durability, flavor, etc.

2. See if a HuCard case can be 3D printed

You've seen Atlantean, right?  :mrgreen:
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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2014, 02:53:45 AM »
This is awesome! I have been fascinated with 3D printing for years. It is so cool to see it start to be used more and more.

Aren't there three versions of the cases? One with nothing (like what you have modeled in your 3d program), one like jelloslug shows, and one with just the "box" part in the middle?

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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2014, 05:35:22 AM »
jelloslug: That would be cool if you could send over your model - please email me at aaron.nanto@outlook.com.

Neato.  I'd like to see how this turns out in terms of fitment, finish, durability, flavor, etc.

2. See if a HuCard case can be 3D printed

You've seen Atlantean, right?  :mrgreen:

LOL...yes, but I've not received my copy in person yet so I'm not sure exactly how they modeled it.  They also are using a different model 3D printer than mine.

I'm going to keep with the 3D printed route for replicating this case (again, no injection molding) so while it won't be as exact as the originals in color or build quality, it will be perfectly adequate to use for your loose Hu's or as replacements for broken/old cases.
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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2014, 05:48:06 AM »
People attempting to produce new HuCard cases usually say it's too expensive, but rarely get into specifics.

I would be happy to pay $5 per case and am perfectly fine with the simple PC Engine style ones, without the arm holding the HuCard.
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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2014, 05:57:39 AM »
LOL...yes, but I've not received my copy in person yet so I'm not sure exactly how they modeled it.

There's is a different breed anyways - shaped like a early, black huey tray but inserted into a standard jewel case like the later, white huey trays.

People attempting to produce new HuCard cases usually say it's too expensive, but rarely get into specifics.

Professionally 3D printed is something crazy like $40 each.  Injection molded is $5000+ to have the mold made, and not many are willing to pony up that kind of cash when they know that even at $5 each it'd take years to sell enough to break even (if ever).
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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2014, 06:01:48 AM »
Injection molding is crazy expensive, plus you have to order a minimum (10,000 units generally) so you also need somewhere to store all of those units as well.
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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2014, 06:11:08 AM »
People attempting to produce new HuCard cases usually say it's too expensive, but rarely get into specifics.

I would be happy to pay $5 per case and am perfectly fine with the simple PC Engine style ones, without the arm holding the HuCard.


Right now at Shapeways an exact duplicate of the Turbografx style back shell costs $34.77 (plus shipping) made out of the white material that I use for the parts that I'm printing.  To print it out of a higher resolution material to get it "perfect" costs $115.91 (plus shipping).
Here is a back case with a separate clip that I had printed a while back out of the high res material.


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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2014, 06:14:22 AM »
Professionally 3D printed is something crazy like $40 each.  Injection molded is $5000+ to have the mold made, and not many are willing to pony up that kind of cash when they know that even at $5 each it'd take years to sell enough to break even (if ever).

When I was trying to get the back case made even in China the mold was $7500.  The cheapest North American producer I found wanted $11000 for the back case mold and most of them wanted $20k for the mold.

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Re: 3D Printed HuCard Case (in progress)
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2014, 06:20:40 AM »
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The cheapest North American producer I found wanted $11000 for the back case mold and most of them wanted $20k for the mold.

...which is why I was looking at a generic square mold with silicone molding compund.
Now if I could just find a nice, cheap injection machine.... :)